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Old May 13, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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redoing headliner, need ? anwsered!

i am redoing my birds headliner in a couple of days and want to now how hard is it to do? also it is a hard top and what material is the cloth made out off. i also noticed that some cars have a foam backing to their headliners and mine doesnt, just wonder if someone tried fixing it before? also has anyone did this before and r the results good? i have heard of them sagging right away after u redo them. so if u guys can give me a heads up that would be cool.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Repairing the headliner is actually pretty easy... Go to a fabric store and ask for some of the foam backed fabric, they usually have it in stock in a few different colors.. Then go to an auto parts store and buy some of the 3M General Trim Adhesive. Once you get your board out, strip off all of the old foam that is stuck to the board... Once you get all of that stuff off, get your new fabric out and trim it to size, leaving about 3 inches hanging over all sides (you'll fold this over once you have the glue applied)... once you've got your fabric cut to fit, remove it, and spray the board down evenly (but cover the entire board) with the adhesive... Then spray the foam side of the headliner as well (you may need a helper to hold the headliner while you spray, just be careful).. After a minute or so, put the fabric down onto the board in the right position.. Start smoothing down everything by pressing the fabric into the board (make sure to get those curvy spots too)... I spent a little while on this just going over it with my hands to make sure it stuck... After you're happy with it, take the over lapping ends (you may have to trim in some spots and add some more glue for the back side of the board) and fold them over to the other side... Once you've got that done, you're ready to go!! I did mine and it turned out absolutely perfectly.. Awesome thing to do if your headliner sucks now...
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Old May 13, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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whatever you do, don't leave your headliner in the garage for your dad to unknowningly pitch it out...
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Old May 13, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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thats 4 sure
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Just in case anyone else wants to do their headliner. I do custom interior work on the side. You dont have to get the foam backed material unless thats what you want. You can always get any kind of material you want if your looking for a different look or style as long as its not really thick or heavy material. I always use the 3m general trim adhesive to make it stick and make sure you follow the directions on the can for letting it set for a couple minutes before you lay the material down. It works great for all kinds of material jobs. Heres some pics of one of the cars I've done. It just happens to be my bf's car but this was what he asked for on his show car and it looks pretty good. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v81/ShiftedDimensions/mypics/95%20Impreza%2086%20Celi/Jerry/97%20Neon/Interior/
He also wanted his pillars and dash done. But If anyone decides to cover their dash I recommend getting a car cover or window shade to prevent fading of the material. If anyone has any more interior questions feel free to ask me.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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I have a few ???'s. How long does it hold up? ive heard stories about it sagging after a few days after people redo it. Also what is the name of the foam backed material? Also i am redoing the hardtop on my bird and was curious how many yards i will need?

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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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They hold up really well as long as you use the right adhesive. Make sure you cover it good with the spray. 3m makes a general trim adhesive and thats what I use. Depends on how big your headliner is for how much material you need. Its easy to just measure it yourself and give yourself and extra foot of material just in case. Each car is different but you shouldnt need more than 3 yards tops. Its easier to just measure it. I'm recovering my t-top headliner soon and its not gonna take much at all to recover it. Maybe 2 yards at the most and that leaves me extra material to redo the speaker covers. Just remember that 4 feet is a yard.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Thanx 4 the help.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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has anyone have a picture of a t-top car without the headliner. was wondering what it looks like without the headliner.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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I'm doing mine soon. I will take pics as I go. I have to replace my weatherstripping first.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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thats cool. I have t tops and my headlinner is getting bad and was wondering what a t top car would look like with out the headlinner
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Old May 14, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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mine looked like garbage when i got my car, i.e. material falling off, foam in your face when you drive
so i pulled it out, and had it out for about 6 months before i got a new one
it don't look bad, people rarely notice it
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Old May 14, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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i think ill just take mine out then cuse my headlinner is crapy
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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when i removed my headliner today i notice that the fiberglass is broken around the seat belt areas. if i get the fiberglass cloth and repair those areas, should i just do the entire headliner in that stuff to reinforce it from breaking later on? also when cleaning the old glue off, do i remove it till i see the fiberglass stuff(yellow). please let me know
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Old May 14, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I broke mine today when i pulled it out and it looks better w/o it but im gonna put that plastic headlinner in it that you were talking to me about
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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anyone ever build a headliner without having an old on to go by?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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not me.

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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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I took mine out today to redo it and it had been wet before apparently and it just disentigrated when I pulled on it. I was going to get some kind of particle board or cardboard type material and make another one, but the old one fell apart so bad I cant even piece it back together to use it for a template. I think mine also looks better off. I just need to come up with something to cover the seat belt retractors.

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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroChick4Lif
They hold up really well as long as you use the right adhesive. Make sure you cover it good with the spray. 3m makes a general trim adhesive and thats what I use. Depends on how big your headliner is for how much material you need. Its easy to just measure it yourself and give yourself and extra foot of material just in case. Each car is different but you shouldnt need more than 3 yards tops. Its easier to just measure it. I'm recovering my t-top headliner soon and its not gonna take much at all to recover it. Maybe 2 yards at the most and that leaves me extra material to redo the speaker covers. Just remember that 4 feet is a yard.
~Jeanna~
Hey Jeanna,
I thought there were 3 feet in a yard
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Today i completed my headliner and it turn out better then new, once again thanx 4 all the help guys.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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quote=Toehead]pics ? [/quote]

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ill post some time this week.
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Originally Posted by 82 Iron Duke
Hey Jeanna,
I thought there were 3 feet in a yard
LMAO. Wow what a typo. I was in a hurry and didnt check my post after I typed it,lol. Glad you got yours done Trigger. Cant wait to see the pics. I'm doin my door panels as we speak. I will start a new thread and post pics when I'm done.~Jeanna~
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Heres the pics of my newly redone headliner. Let me know if u like it.

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Old May 25, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Heres the pics of my newly redone headliner. Let me know if u like it.
looks good
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Old May 26, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Yes

I also had to redo my headliners. yeah, they are kind of a pain in the *** to do.
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Originally Posted by beavisbond
I also had to redo my headliners. yeah, they are kind of a pain in the *** to do.
Actually there not really that hard too redo if u have the right materials. I thought it would be hard to redo mine and it was easy, took me about 30min to remove the headliner, 30min to an hour recovering the headliner and another 30min to reinstall it. thats the most difficult too do. P.S. u have a typo, its headliner, not headliners unless u did more than 1 car. just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Bandit84
when i removed my headliner today i notice that the fiberglass is broken around the seat belt areas. if i get the fiberglass cloth and repair those areas, should i just do the entire headliner in that stuff to reinforce it from breaking later on? also when cleaning the old glue off, do i remove it till i see the fiberglass stuff(yellow). please let me know
Use duct tape on the back side. It will work. "if you can't duck it, f*ck it"
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