The first few pix are of the headliner that I took out... they are blurry, sorry. The other 40 pix are of how I took it off, cleaned it, cut and glued new fabric on. It's still the factory deal, just a diff fabric. It is Nogahide (sp?) which is basically fake leather, it looks cool and feels smooth. I did the Headliner and Visors (Visors are still being done -- as you can see the close-pins).

Here is a link to the pix:
Headliner & Visors. There are 42 pix of headliner and what not, and 8 pix of the visors so far.
Now remember, the first 3 pix are blurry. The rest are great.

Tell me what you think!

-- ScottieB

Yes, I will take pix next week of how it looks installed! (Camera is not mine ... and they are going on vacation).

Also on another note... DO NOT CUT THE HOLES FOR STUFF BEFORE IT IS FINISHED - I cut the dome hole last... but that's not what im talking about... I almost didn't get the seat belt holes drawn right, and i put a hole in there (small) and it almost didn't fit correctly (meaning you could see the rip)... So, after everything is glued down, then you can cut stuff

Now, when I was doing this project, I used the 3M stuff from Wal-Mart, Autozone, O'Reilly's, whatever. It was the super adhesive -- it is recommended for headliners. I used 2 cans, and probably could have used a 3rd. They are like 11? or 12$ at Wal-Mart, the cheaper one is like 8$-9$ at Wal-Mart. At O'Reilly's they wanted 16.99$ or 17.99$ for a can of the super ahesive that wal-mart sold for 11 or 12... Same brand, same stuff

Anyways, I used 2 cans of the super on the headliner, and 1 (well 1/3) can of the cheaper regular adhesive (8-9$) on the visors so far, but i'll probably end up using the rest of the can on the rest of the visors (going to glue the board and what not in).

 

Thank you for the insight as I am in the middle of this same project. I am just curious, why did you not add a thin layer of foam down prior to applying the material? Not that your way is right or wrong, just would like to know.

I was wondering how the visors came apart; again thank you very much!

This is a good post.

Dave

 

I didn't think of foam. I was in the middle of getting the project under way, as well as I felt no "need" to put any up -- I thought of some as I was cleaning the old crap off... This "nogahide" (sp?) feels almost like leather, or a sham and doesn't feel like that "hard" headliner. As well as the glue soaks right into the headliner and the nogahide, so I had to put 2 coats... as well as I was running out of money! I'm a college student. But yeah, I think the foam was for touch, or did it actually serve a purpose?

The visors come apart easily. The 3 part triangle at the car has 3 screws, take them off and pull your visors down. Once they are down, flip them around and there is 1 more screw you have to take off... it is very tight... This now has 2 pieces... that thin cardboard that you saw that was 1 piece in the first visor pic, and the second is a 1.5-2mm thick or so piece of board... almost feels like old pegboards that you hang those hooks, and then your tools on. Also there is a piece of fabric that serves some purpose in there by the screw hole, I dunno what it is though. But anyways, take that screw out all of the way and pull the triangle out, there is a steel? rod attached about 2.5-3" long. Also, there should be a plastic piece stuck in there too... try and not break it (they look broken already, but that's just how they are).

Oh!!! I think you may be asking about the stitching??? On our visors, we have that stitching stuff. I used a stitch remover to slowly take it out. Try and take it out slowly, and not rip anything or your fabric may not line up correctly like I did I finished them last night (dried overnight) and some of the corners don't line up all of the way... as well as I should have left about an inch or an inch and a half of clearance room on the inside of the board so that when I glued everything down -- I didn't have glue seeping out of the edges where other people could see it.

Well anyways, it doesn't look bad at all for "home-made" deal by a college student w/ no art skills.

-- ScottieB

Now that I think of it, foam would have probably been cheaper... but I was thinking of glue only for some reason, heh.

 

That looks really good

Suggest you do the speaker covers in the same material, or a porous similar material to look the same

As for the foam, thats usually what fails in OEM headliners first, not the glue

Ive never put foam anything in any of the headliners Ive recovered

How easy was the nauga-stuff to mold to the curves? I used craft felt specifically for the semi-stretchy ability

Good job on the visors. Ive never had much luck with them. Best I found was to make a sort of "sock" and slide them in and stuff the opened side into the visor

 

It's installed!!! hit up headliner installed 1-5 and seats 1

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I will do the speakers the same way, except I will cut a hole in the fabric and in the deal that slides over the speakers... so that I can mount my ... speaker cage? whatever the plastic and metal thing that goes over the speakers to protect them is... I got Pioneer 240w speakers (6x9's) for replacement of the stock... and they rattle that "almost cardboard" deal that covers the speakers.

Now for the corners, they were hard as crap to do... as you look, they are not perfect at all and installed if you look hard, you can see where I was not perfect. But!!! It does look great!

The visors I'm going to take to a ... sewing? shop or somewhere that will stitch them up... My grandma told me to make a sock, but I would have had to sewn (is that a word?) it up myself... and I didn't want to break her machine or needle doing it!!! So I did it this way so they would stick in my car. They are fine, except it looks a little tacky as you can see the white glue on the visors... so after I take them out, right before they get sown (is that the word?) up... I will take off the adhesive with adhesive remover... BTW, this Nogahide (sp?) does not de-color when you put the adhesive remover on it... ie: the blue doesn't come off.

Anyways, after next paycheck, I'll get the speaker covers done and what not, and get some more nogahide and spray glue!

ScottieB

Note: in pic 01 and pic 05 you will see on the right side in the middle of the headliner there is a piece that looks flat. That is where my headliner was cracked some... so I put a piece of cardboard there, it is a little obvious in the pix, but glancing in/at the car it isn't noticeable... but, if it wasn't cracked, it would look "normal" like the rest. Now, if yours is cracked and you want to fix it, put cardboard on the *inside* of the headliner... I put it on both sides to ensure it was good to go!!! And it is... I was going about 120 MPH with the t-tops off and the windows down... and it's still there, I double checked everything to make sure it was good to go... and it is!!