Fiberglass Doors
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Come on people. Someone on here must have some on their car or know where the best place is to get them... I really want a set of doors!
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Before you look too hard, you know fiberglass doors are for racing only, and don't have luxuries like windows, right?
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Yeah, I know. I want to find a set that I'll be able to add windows, regulators, and power locks on. I know it will require work, but I'm sure some others have done it already...
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By the time you've done all that, and added crash bars, etc. for street use you'll probably end up with something that's heavier than a steel door.
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Try here, they have lots of fiberglass parts, the even offer lexan windows for the doors....
VFN Fiberglass - All your fiberglass parts
just remember Racing only, fiberglass doors aren't safe, there's no crash support
VFN Fiberglass - All your fiberglass parts
just remember Racing only, fiberglass doors aren't safe, there's no crash support
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Thanks for the replies. My doors in their current state are sagging. My friends constantly complain that they must weigh a thousand pounds. Then there's the earthshattering noise that occurs when I close them.
I'm looking into the possibility of building lighter than stock doors and then going Lambo. I'm also wary of having vertical doors that are as heavy as the stockers... 88KARRV6- Thanks for the link. What's it mean when it says no posts? Oh, and does anyone have the actual figure on how much stock bare doors weigh?
I'm looking into the possibility of building lighter than stock doors and then going Lambo. I'm also wary of having vertical doors that are as heavy as the stockers... 88KARRV6- Thanks for the link. What's it mean when it says no posts? Oh, and does anyone have the actual figure on how much stock bare doors weigh?
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Thanks for the replies. My doors in their current state are sagging. My friends constantly complain that they must weigh a thousand pounds. Then there's the earthshattering noise that occurs when I close them.
I'm looking into the possibility of building lighter than stock doors and then going Lambo. I'm also wary of having vertical doors that are as heavy as the stockers... 88KARRV6- Thanks for the link. What's it mean when it says no posts? Oh, and does anyone have the actual figure on how much stock bare doors weigh?
I'm looking into the possibility of building lighter than stock doors and then going Lambo. I'm also wary of having vertical doors that are as heavy as the stockers... 88KARRV6- Thanks for the link. What's it mean when it says no posts? Oh, and does anyone have the actual figure on how much stock bare doors weigh?
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The doors are probably 90-100 lbs assembled. If weight isn't the concern, there's no point going to fiberglass, it will take a lot of work to make them functional and look good. And in the end you've reduced the safety of the car tenfold.
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Thanks for the replies. I believe you guys have nearly convinced me into keeping my stock doors. I'm still going to do some more research, but fiberglass doors are on the back burner for now. I'm definately going to pick up that TDS kit, and lambo doors are still all go. If anyone knows some good manufactures for lambo door, I'm all ears. I'm also looking into a light-weight substitute for the glass windows... Once again, thanks for sharing- Josh
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autoloc is the only good way to go for a lambo door kit. I hope that you realize what a project it is to do them right, if you're not doing it yourself expect $$$ quote from any shop that is going to do things right, and if you are doing it yourself, figure NOTHING is going to be a bolt in, the door pillars door hinge area were not designed with that kind of load in mind and if you’re not welding in reinforcements expect them to misalign and break in short order.
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Ok.....I first have to state that I REALLY want light weight fiberglass doors, but everything has its price.
1) As has been stated, there are fiberglass doors available....for RACING.
No windows, NO SAFETY!
2) The doors are a component in the regidity of the car. That must be taken into account.
3) MOST IMPORTANTLY!!!!!!!! They are not safe (unless you really do things to make them safe).
The 4th gen cars have composite doors and they are lighter than the 3rd gens (I have an '02).
Do any of you know why '02 was the last year of the FBodies? GM would have made them another year or 2 without making any changes to the body style, *BUT* they would not meet the 2003 side crash test standards.
Is it worth your life (or being seriously injured) to save 20-30 lbs? It's like saying you want to take out the seat belts to save some weight!!
1) As has been stated, there are fiberglass doors available....for RACING.
No windows, NO SAFETY!
2) The doors are a component in the regidity of the car. That must be taken into account.
3) MOST IMPORTANTLY!!!!!!!! They are not safe (unless you really do things to make them safe).
The 4th gen cars have composite doors and they are lighter than the 3rd gens (I have an '02).
Do any of you know why '02 was the last year of the FBodies? GM would have made them another year or 2 without making any changes to the body style, *BUT* they would not meet the 2003 side crash test standards.
Is it worth your life (or being seriously injured) to save 20-30 lbs? It's like saying you want to take out the seat belts to save some weight!!
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I just weighed the door I took off my car and it weighs 76 pounds without the inside door panel. 150 pounds isn't worth yours or your friends lives!!
Besides that, how would you even attach the tracks, regulators, etc. to a fiberglass door?
Besides that, how would you even attach the tracks, regulators, etc. to a fiberglass door?
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autoloc is the only good way to go for a lambo door kit. I hope that you realize what a project it is to do them right, if you're not doing it yourself expect $$$ quote from any shop that is going to do things right, and if you are doing it yourself, figure NOTHING is going to be a bolt in, the door pillars door hinge area were not designed with that kind of load in mind and if you’re not welding in reinforcements expect them to misalign and break in short order.
mrws6speed and CYARS92- Easy guys. I'm assumming you both missed my previous reply... I said "I believe you guys have nearly convinced me into keeping my stock doors. I'm still going to do some more research, but fiberglass doors are on the back burner for now." Regardless, since I now feel as though I am somehow required to state it - Safety come first. There's absolutely no way I'm going to put something on my car that will endanger my life or the lives of my friends. As I said, I'm going to do some more research. If I knew all the answers I wouldn't ask questions.
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Camaroguy21: I realize that you've gotten the point on the safety. I feel as if it needs to be stated several times every time this issue comes up because there will always be somebody who reads it that doesn't quite get it.
I'll be the first to admit that I would love to have lightweight doors for our cars and I'd be the first to jump on a Safe version! Don't think that I don't want a good version of light doors for our cars.
I'll be the first to admit that I would love to have lightweight doors for our cars and I'd be the first to jump on a Safe version! Don't think that I don't want a good version of light doors for our cars.
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Hey, no hard feelings here about the safety thing. I guess the best thing now would be to hear from some body shop guys on wether constructing a safe fiberglass door that will be lighter than stock is feasible. Oh, and if power windows would be possible... If the resulting product was still a good deal lighter than our stock doors I would consider the investment...
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how much do you weight?? lose about 40lbs and you have your weight reduction in the same place as the doors..
JUST JOKING!!! NO OFFENSE TAKEN!! i'm not a really skinny fellow myself..
JUST JOKING!!! NO OFFENSE TAKEN!! i'm not a really skinny fellow myself..
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about the lambo doors i'm trying to set up a group purchase through xtreme-doors it's in a thread called vertical doors on the appearance and detailing forum. i haven't heard back from them so I'm not sure if this is still a go or not. what's funny is they contacted me to set up one lol.
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I don't understand what isn't getting through. Fiberglass doors aren't possible for you. You want power windows and need safety (metal supports)- THAT is where the weight is. The thin metal skin and door panels aren't what weighs your car down- it's the stuff that you want!
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I don't understand what isn't getting through. Fiberglass doors aren't possible for you. You want power windows and need safety (metal supports)- THAT is where the weight is. The thin metal skin and door panels aren't what weighs your car down- it's the stuff that you want!
I think it's a matter of nobody makes a good fireberglass streetable door for a thirdgen. Maybe thats what you were saying, but what makes the thirdgen doors heavy is the design.
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I'm 6'3" 180lbs. I have a very high metabolism. I eat pasta in a mixing bowl! I probably wouldn't be around if I lost 40lbs!about the lambo doors i'm trying to set up a group purchase through xtreme-doors it's in a thread called vertical doors on the appearance and detailing forum. i haven't heard back from them so I'm not sure if this is still a go or not. what's funny is they contacted me to set up one lol.
I don't understand what isn't getting through. Fiberglass doors aren't possible for you. You want power windows and need safety (metal supports)- THAT is where the weight is. The thin metal skin and door panels aren't what weighs your car down- it's the stuff that you want!
Found this site in an old link I had. What's everyones opinion on their doors... http://www.hairyglass.com/camaro.html
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For anyone that does want or need to purchase fiberglass doors, you can purchase them from Classic Indistries. They are made by Harwood and run $389.95 each. They are for use on 82-92 F-Bodies and, use OEM style latches and hinges and those areas on the door have been reinforced. You have to trim out the inner panel to gain access to the inside of the door and they are only for use with lexan windows and hardware.
You can find them on page 428 of their catalog which you can download as a PDF here.
F12012 = RH Door
F12013 = LH Door
You can find them on page 428 of their catalog which you can download as a PDF here.
F12012 = RH Door
F12013 = LH Door
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