Dear Board members,
I found and purchased the following item on Ebay today after hearing back from the seller that the hood was in fact a fiberglass hood. (I know he said no rust in the ad), but he assured me that the flaps open, this is from an 82 Z28 AND it is fiberglass.

Before I paypal the money - drive 900 miles to pick it up, could somebody here on the board look at the pictures on Ebay and tell me if I bought what I thought I bought.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...0906&rd=1&rd=1

EBAY ITEM NUMBER 250074310906

SO, what do you think? FIBERGLASS OR NOT? Thanks guys!

Brian LaRose
Atlanta Georgia

 

uhh...i dunno about it being factory fiberglass...could be wrong but didnt realize our cars had the glass option. for 50 buks it sounds like an awesome deal to me, steel or not it looks good. i also dont know anything about this "ram air" thing...perhaps before you pay for it you ask if its ok to come and look at it in person and pay cash. if its not what was advertized then say NO and report that he is decieving.

 

i bet it's fiberglass. my friend (Squeeks83 on here) had an '83 Z28 and his had a factory fiberglass hood that looked just like that...i know it was fiberglass because i saw a tiny break in its corner...so it most likely IS fiberglass...

Josh

 

Tell him to take pics of the flaps in the open position to be sure. I have a fiberglass one also but without the functional flaps, They were offered both ways. Double check! That's a long drive!

 

looks like you got a factory thirdgen hood for a damned good deal. Of course the 900 miles of gas (im assuming round trip) isnt going to be real cheap... sounds like a 250 $ hood now!

 

I checked and it's only 700 miles door to door, 1 way.. 1400 round trip.

OH well, at 30 MPG that's another 100 bucks in gas. Still not a bad deal for a stock glass hood in great shape.

Brian

 

Fiberglass hoods were offered on our cars in 82 and 84. I have one sitting in my garage from a 1982, didnt know what i had until i picked up a metal one. The weight difference is night and day. It sucks that you have to make the round trip, but $50 for functional flaps????!!! Even for a steel hood thats a good deal. Dont worry too much about it, i dont think there are any visual traits for the fiberglass ones, but at $50 you cant lose.

You may wanna ask him to weigh it for you, and to see a pic with the flaps open. Those two items would confirm that it is fiberglass, and that the flaps work. then cross reference the weight, and bingo. I think the metal hoods were close to 100lbs, and the fiberglass ones are probably around 30-40lbs. Dont take those numbers to heart, its just what i noticed from lifting.

 

Hi, My name is jesse, this is only my second post on this fourm. I also have a factory fiberglass hood, exactly like what You are buying, and i noticed that it was in ohio, i am in kentucky, if u want to stop by on your way to pick up ur hood u can gladly have mine to, for free. it has a corner broke off not to bad though. if u want it just call me, my cell is 1-859-612-7785.

sincerly , jesse

 

Jesse

Just wanted to say hey to another thirdgener from KY!!!!

 

Hey, i think i saw ur car at sumerset at a cruise in? there wernt allot of nice thirdgens there, sorry to steal to post lol. but if brian chevy is not interested this hood is up to anyone wanting it otherwise its going in my parts pile.

 

I was watching the same hood but as I recall it was over 100 last time I checked it?? It's a glass hood and I'de say the flaps open by the look of the cut out in the fiberglass but why would that matter? You need the box that goes under it in order to make it functional. I ended up finding a black one in the junkyard that needed a little body work. I wish I would've kept watching that hood, the color matches my car and I'm only about 70 miles away from it. Congrats.

 

I can't be greedy and grab all the body parts....

I am going up north in the next 2 weeks and if nobody takes the other hood, i'll stop and grab it. My car is a race car, i'm getting into wheel to wheel racing, so you can always use extras... rather in my barn than in the garbage.... if nobody else takes it -- i'll stop.

Brian

 

Hey Jesse
I would gladly take that hood off your hands, I have a crusty Iroc hood on mine now. I'm in Cincinnati.
PM me if you get the time.

 

Wasnt me. I havent got a chance to get over the the Summers Nite Cruise yet. I do get out to London Dragway on occasions.

PM me sometime, we might do some part swapping or get together with a few other local thirdgenners!

 

You have to be careful with those hoods though they have problems with the firberglass seperating, and flying off at high speeds thats why they quit making them, but they do look nice, and save a bunch of weight

 

i cant say ive ever heard of that problem. Youd probably have to be goin pretty fast before that happens. Has this happened to you? Maybe the hood was unlatched when this occured (if ever)?
How come aftermarket hoods dont have the same problem?

Not trying to bash your theory, just trying to figure out why its true, if at all.

 

Brain

I own a 1982 Z28 with the Cross Fire TBI and the functional hood. I took a look at the photos on e-bay and the underside looks just like mine. If you look carefully in the center of the photo, you can seal the seal the fits around the top of the air cleaners and seals the opening so air only travels into the air cleaner when the flaps are open. You can also see the metal link (barely) that opens the flaps.

This is from camarosource.ca concering the "fiberglass" hood......

"The Z28 was fully-loaded with a twin-TBI V8 and available T-Top. All Z28's came with "fiberglass" hoods. These hoods were not real fiberglass but instead was lightweight SMC (Sheet Molded Compound).

The RPO LU5 optioned Z28's also came with functional hood air induction flaps."

Hard to tell from the seller's photos, but it looks like the hood is now painted in the metallic bule that was avaiable that year..

Here are some photos of my hood for you to compare with those on e-bay.

In the end, the only way to determine if the flaps are functional is to apply power to the seloniod that opens them. They typically did not open unless you were accelerating hard Proping them "open" for a photo just indicates that they are functional. The real questions is does the seloniod that opens them still work????


Dave

 

The hoods had a bonding problem and did seperate and have issues, this was only 1 year but since they were only made for 2 years you could run into that problem with them. Mine was old and looked good so I decided to take a chance on it. I'm not exactly sure how you identify the good years from the bad years but I'm sure someone on here knows how.

 

My car is an 83 and it has the factory fiberglass hood, and from what I understood 83 was the last year they offered the fiberglass hood with the functional scoops. They were steel after 83.

 

My '83 Z28 has CFI and she still has the fiberglass hood (built 3rd week June '83).Actually they are composite hoods (SMC) and this is where the problem /recall came from.The panels would separate and well you can imagine the rest.GM had a recall on the affected cars but I'm not sure where in the '82-'83 run they fell.A guess would be early in production but they could have changed sources for the hood and ran into the problem then.And in the recall they replaced the SMC hoods with non-functional steel hoods (this is what I've learned so far - anyone else know any more info).The SMC hood was also used on non CFI cars with block off plates in the openings.

As for the air doors,as mentioned,they are solenoid activated by throttle position (TPS) thru the ECM.The fresh air induction was intended just for the CFI setup but you can adapt it to work on a carb'ed motor.The solenoid is 12VDC and the harness is fairly long.On the paint the doors were black and there were black decals in the hood nacelles in front of them.If you get it and install it make sure you get hood struts for the fiberglass hood.If you reuse the ones for your steel hood you'll put to much stress on the hood.

 

IIRC, for the 83 SMC hoods, GM changed the supplier for the adhesive. Which was crappy, so the 83 hoods were recalled. I haven't seen anything at all about the 82 hoods being affected by the recall.

I bought an 82 SMC hood for $40 and have yet to get it painted, but it's on my list.

 

Hey guys I work for a GM dealer and thought I'd look up the mentioned Campaign on this hood and here is what I found.
Hope this helps someone.

DEFECT INVOLVED
General Motors has determined that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain early production 1983 Z-28 Camaros equipped with 5.0 liter engines (RPO LU5 or LG4). These cars were assembled with fiberglass hoods. The hood inner and outer panels could separate. If separation were to occur while the car is in motion, the hood outer panel could fold back and block the driver's view. This could result in a vehicle crash without prior warning.
VEHICLES INVOLVED
Involved are certain 1983 Chevrolet Z28 Camaro models equipped with RPO LU5 or RPO LG4 5.0L engines and identified within the following vehicle breakpoints:
Plant From Through
Norwood DN122041 DN128666 Van Nuys DL114424 DL119400
Involved vehicles have been identified by Vehicle Identification Number Computer Listings. Computer listings contain the complete Vehicle Identification Number, owner name and address data, and are furnished to the involved dealers with the campaign bulletin. Owner name and address data furnished will enable dealers to follow-up with owners involved in this campaign.
These listings may contain owner names and addresses obtained from State Motor Vehicle Registration Records. The use of such motor vehicle registration data for any other purpose is a violation of law in several states. Accordingly, you are urged to limit the use of this listing to the follow-up necessary to complete this campaign. Any dealer not receiving a computer listing with the campaign bulletin was not shipped any involved vehicles.
OWNER NOTIFICATION
Owners will be notified of this campaign on their vehicles by Chevrolet Motor Division (see copy of Owner Letter included with this bulletin).
DEALER CAMPAIGN RESPONSIBILITY
Dealers are to service all vehicles subject to this campaign, regardless of mileage, age of vehicle, or ownership, from this time forward.
Whenever a vehicle subject to this campaign is taken into your new or used vehicle inventory or it is in your dealership for service in the future, you should take the steps necessary to be sure the campaign correction has been made.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
A. Inspection
1) Raise hood and partially lower the rear half of the hood insulator (blanket) using tool (J24595-B trim pad remover) to loosen retainers.
2) Locate the hood bonding date code, written in crayon on the rear portion of the air scoop depression.
a. Hood assemblies requiring replacement are identified within the following parameters:
From Through
12-9- 2 A or B 1-l7-2A or B Mo. Day Shift Bonding Fixture Dec.
3) The service procedure for replacing the involved hood assembly may be found in 1983 "Camaro Shop Manual", Section 2C, Pages 2C-1 through 2C-6.
4) Hoods not identified within the date codes referred in Step 2 are not involved.
5) Reinstall the hood insulator using new retainer clips.
6) Install campaign label according to instructions contained in this bulletin.
7) Close hood.

Good luck with your hood.
FASTCARS

 

looks real, they did make them. you can't make it for that price. good buy!

 

Hard to tell from pictures but yeah very possible thats the SMC hood. Mine did not have functional flaps, so I just cut out the vents completely before painting. The possibility of the hood seperating is something I've read alot. I have not done it yet but my plan to prevent that possibility is install some hood pins.

 

Yup, looks like the fiberglass one

I got mine from the junkyard for 50 bucks, fixed it
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2082526/8

 

I recently baught one of these hoods from a guy I know. I got it for 50 bucks also. Now my car didnt come with one stock and the engine in mine isnt stock either so im curently trying to fab up a air filter that will take advantage of the hood Flaps and I havent wired theflaps up yet because im looking for a decent looking switch. I wish I knew how they were originally wired up but these seem to be rare

 

Sorry to bump an older thread,

but foudn a guy selling an 82 glass hood.
From this thread, it looks like the 82 was OK.

What elase should I look for to make sure these are OK? Also this should fit an 84 OK right?

Here are some pics.

 

Nevermind about the hood I was looking at.
The guy had an ad on Craigslist
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/pts/287540121.html

Talk about misleading, after seeing that some of you guys got yours for $50 or so. I thought, hey here is one in my area and only $20!

So I emailed him about it, and here is his repsonse
He really wants $400 for that hood!! No thanks espeically seeing that some of you got yours for $50

 

Hey Chris,

I got my perfect dash pad for $15. And My SMC hood for $40. But that's exceptions. If you don't have junk yards to roam around in, sometimes you just gotta pay.

EDIT: I wouldn't pay $400 for the hood either.

 

All the power to him, if he thinks he'll sell it at that price. Then good luck to him.

I just hate when people post things to make you think they are trying to sell it at one price, but then when you contact them about it, and it's really something else.

Don't waste my time, and I won't waste yours..
The only reason I even emailed him was because of the price, and I remembered this thread.

He must know that he won't get much response if he puts the real price he wants, and that's why he put $20.

 

$400.00 Imagine the great aftermarket hoods you can get for $400 with warrenty.

 

Thank you Fastcars for posting the TSB/Recall info.My car was built(06/83) well after the involved VINs.And my hood date code was in May I believe(have to look again).I had done some searching but what I found didn't show all the bulletin.