To heat, or not to heat (problem)
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Car: 1986 Vert Z28
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To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Hey Guys, Maybe this is simple, I've never actually got my mind around how the whole heating/cooling system works.
When driving, i get pretty good heat through the vents and defrost. But when i stop, it starts blowing cold. Basicly, if the RPM is low, it blows cool air, but if i step on the gas it'll blow warm again.
I'm thinking that it might be that plastic valve looking thing located on the passenger side of the engine, looks like it routes the hot coolant into the firewall. Not sure how it works, so i don't want to start replacing stuff without knowing a little more then i do.
It's really starting to get annoying now that i got a remote start, and it's getting cold. No point if the darn car is still freezing. lol.
Ohh, FYI it's a stock 305 TBI (5 speed if it matters)
Thanks for any help guys (and gals)
When driving, i get pretty good heat through the vents and defrost. But when i stop, it starts blowing cold. Basicly, if the RPM is low, it blows cool air, but if i step on the gas it'll blow warm again.
I'm thinking that it might be that plastic valve looking thing located on the passenger side of the engine, looks like it routes the hot coolant into the firewall. Not sure how it works, so i don't want to start replacing stuff without knowing a little more then i do.
It's really starting to get annoying now that i got a remote start, and it's getting cold. No point if the darn car is still freezing. lol.
Ohh, FYI it's a stock 305 TBI (5 speed if it matters)
Thanks for any help guys (and gals)
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Here, i highlighted the 'valve' i'm talking about.
Shoot, if you can tell me what it's called i'll be happy. lol
Shoot, if you can tell me what it's called i'll be happy. lol
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
are you sure your radiator is full? That sounds more like a low coolant level problem than a bad control valve..
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on a side note that pic u posted, is that in a junkyard or something? Or sitting outside without a hood on it?
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on a side note that pic u posted, is that in a junkyard or something? Or sitting outside without a hood on it?
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
its called " heater diverter valve " . i changed mine a month or so ago . around $20.00 at advance . check all hoses & vacuum lines . when i put a system press. tester on my radiator it was leaking from the top of the valve .
i also relocated mine to the rt. rear corner of eng. bay , no special hoses req. . sure cleaned up eng. bay . do a search on heater diverter valve , it will tell you how to .
i also relocated mine to the rt. rear corner of eng. bay , no special hoses req. . sure cleaned up eng. bay . do a search on heater diverter valve , it will tell you how to .
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Sounds like low coolant to me as well. If not that, low vacuum.
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
... i need to wake up... lol. i never thought about checking the coolant. If that fixes it, I'm going to feel like a big A-hole. lol. I dunno, just automatically started thinking something more complicated.
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
What does the valve do? It was too bulky, and i just removed it, figured my old carbed car never had one, how important could it be?
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Valve helps the car warm up faster by not circulating coolant through heater core. Emissions thing. Most vehicles don't have them.
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
actually I think the air always goes over the ac and only goes over the heater core when you want heat, this is so it can pull the mosture out of the air when you have it on defrost. if it always flowed over both there would be no way of controlling temp.
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Hence the reason the coolant diverter valve is there.......
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To heat, or not to heat (problem)
We have found in upstate NY that numerous people have heating issues with their cars. Usually it a thermostat, or low coolant. After they change everything we tell them if you still don't get heat, you might want to flush your block and cores out. I have heard this can be done with Draino if you know what your are doing. Never run it in your engine though. Remove your heater core lines and pour it in a line directly. Does do a nice job or removing all the gunk built up.. Then flush completely before hooking up .
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Yea, i wasn't totally out of coolant, but it was low-ish. So, i'll see this afternoon if it helped.
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let us know how you make out, also have you figured out where the coolant went? It had to go somewhere.. Have you done a pressure check?
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
The diverter valves function is to shut off coolant flow to the heater core on the Max A/C setting. Not all third gens were equiped with one from the factory.
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Yea, actually i did see where the leak is. It's leaking slowly at the fixture, directly under the over-flow port. I believe thats the hookup for the coolant diverter valve. I think it just need tightend
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
If you want to make sure there are no leaks you can borrow a cooling system pressure tester from autozone if you don't have one. That way you can pressure test the whole system and the cap.
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Re: To heat, or not to heat (problem)
Ok well i removed my AC, im only interested in heating in summer nights while at the track. Foggy windshield is not fun at 95 mph....
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
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Yes pressurizing the system is a good idea.. Autozone has a loan a tool program that will let you rent just about any tool and return your money once they get the tool back as long as it isn't broke.
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