Hey all I'm a new member as you might've noticed. I was really interested in putting louvers on my Camaro but as far as my friends' opinions go abnout half say it's a good idea and the other half think they'd be more of a hassel than a benefit (as far as cleaning the window, etc., goes).

I know that I want to cover my back window up somehow be it with tint or louvers. I have a 2-sub 2-speaker unit sitting in plain view and don't want anyone getting any ideas, especially in my not-so-good neighborhood.

So what do you think?

 

I'd say get it. I like em. Don't see to many out on the roads these days with em. I saw a yellow IROC last night with them on. Looked good.

 

if you need to cover it up, I would pick louvers instead of tint. its an 80's era tint. if I remember correctly, some louvers lift up as one piece to allow cleaning the rear window. thats not really a hassle if you ask me.

 

Yeah that's what I thought! (about the lift-up ones)

I found some that are white (my car is white) and they are 150$.

I think I'm gonna go for it but I haven't had too much luck with getting parts for my car. Most junk 3rd gen Camaros where I live are in decent condition (rims, paint, ground effects, hoods) but nobody is ever willing to sell part for part.

 

black and white are very good colors, people don't realize, white can look good with pretty much any color, but white on white would look really good.
I really don't like this one local jy. they get 3rd gens in better condition than my car, with almost no damage. they toss them aside because "they're too old." whatever. those guys are expensive anyway for a car thats aparently not worth much. I go to a junkyard now that has like 20 3rd gens and they're all V6s and he's sold me a cold start connector so important to me, but such a small part. they sold it to me for $1. I've bought over $100 worth of parts from them and I plan on buying more from that place. find a place like that.

 

Closest, and best, junktard to me was a nightmare. Went there one day after school expecting it to be a walk-in kinda deal where you find what you want, yank it off and pay before you leave, man was I wrong.

They have a computer system that searches up the parts and the guy was the worst ever. I asked him to search up Camaro spoiler and Camaro rims (I blew a tire and chipped up on of my rims) and he said they had nothing, and had this "you're seriously bothering me" attitude.

 

yea, I avoid those yards that you don't get to pull yourself. most jys are like the one you described. if they're in the business of selling things, why are they protecting it from you? not a very good business practice if you ask me.

 

Agree, 100%. Plus, I'd much rather bargain with some mechanic about stripping some stuff off of an old 3rd gen rusting away. As pathetic as it might sound, I might be able to save some money that way compared the already low prices of a junkyard. Money is one thing I do not have too much of!

 

yea, if I had money I probably wouldn't have such a crappy paint job. I don't really bargain with jys too much, they know what they want. I think most 3rd gens are in the jy because of rust to begin with...poor cars. if I can fix my rust why are others getting rid of cars with a lot less rust. see my signature for more details on my rust. its like my drivers side floorboard was used to haul salt. lol

 

Holy *** I see what you mean, that rust is baddd. I really like your rims, though, with the red paint on them. I was trying to get rims off of a '91 RS like mine and I fell in love with them, they are like yours where they are bent inward, but are painted completely flat white and have a very plastic look to them. Of course car is only for sale full.

And the hood is a good call as well. I like that one a lot. I've been looking for a decent hood too but I'm trying to find a cowl induction hood for sale reasonably cheap. Don't care about the color of it, when summer comes around I'm getting a re-paint, either a new coat of white or all black. TBD.

What color are you thinking for your car's re-paint?

 

The louvers are nice in that they do hide what's inside the car. The downside is that they can be a pain to keep the glass clean on a daily driver. The underside of the factory louvers have about a 3/4 inch lip on the top and bottom that attaches the slats to the side ABS pieces. The lips catch water and will drip on the clean window. Also, if you are in a hurry and dry off the car but don't lift the louvers and dry the glass, the hard water spots will leave marks on the glass that will eventually be tough to remove.

I have louvers on my car and it's a pain to keep the glass clean and my car doesn't see rain or soapy water often. When it does get washed or rained on, that's when I question why the louvers are on the car!!

If you look closely, you can see the lip I'm referring to at the bottom of the pic.

 

I'm going original red. if you have the money, go for fiberglass. these hoods are heavy. personally, I'd love to have a notchback for my car.

 

Yeah scottmoyer, I see whatyou're talking about, and the cleaning situation was one of my main concerns. Quick question, what do the louvers actually connect to?the edge of the rear window itself?

And chevyracingrox, I have to agree with you on the notchback look, very nice. I've never seen one personally but I like the looks of them on the Camaro, trouble is finding one.

 

There are 4 clips on each side of the window that the louvers connect to. Six clips slide over the edge of the window frame, and the two at the bottom use double sidded tape to stick to the glass. The top clips have screw studs on them that the hinged top slat connects to. The side clips slide over the window frame and lock into place. The actual connection point for the louvers to the side clips are floating so the louvers aren't resting on the glass. The bottom clips, held on with the tape, just prevent the trailing edge from flapping around with the breaze. They lock into place using a 1/4 turn and an allen wrench.

 

Here's a post that I put up once before with the factory connections.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...540-post4.html

 

its not really finding one, its finding one cheap. you can buy them new from places like hawks...if you have about $700, then you've gotta paint it. another thing about louvers is they don't make it look like you have something to hide. to me, tint makes me think its there to hide something. louvers would be very inconspicuous, if you know what I mean.

 

I love the look of them that is for sure

 

I see, thanks for the help scott, I'll definitely check the brackets out if I go through on buying a set.

Oh and chevy, I wouldn't waste your time ..or money.. on hawks.

 

no kidding. they're pricing is outrageous. I prefer to make a lot of my own stuff.

 

What kind of stuff do you make? I wish I had to know-how to make my own stuff, like a spoiler. I'd love to grab an IROC/Z-28 spoiler but can't find any reasonable or white.

 

i fabricate metal stuff when I need to. right now my big project is fixing my rust and installing my own subframe connectors. and I'll be making a gas powered power wheels too.

 

That's some pretty useful skills. You need that rust replacement bad man, ha. I don't know how that possibly happened.

 

probably people that never washed the car so the salt just sat forever. I knew there was bad rust before I bought the car, I didn't know it was THAT bad until I pulled the carpet though.

 

Yeah I'd imagine. You'd think they salvaged part of it from underwater.

 

You could get the "Cargo Shade" if your speakers will fit under it.

 

Yeah I've seen and considered this but it doesn't really do the job...I figure I might as well go all or go nothing.

 

by the way, how is your car for rust?

 

It's quite well actually, the undercarriage has some spots, and there's a small spot right behind my left rear wheel (you can kinda see it in the one picture I have in my album.)

The only significant rust is a streak of rust about 5 inches long at the very bottom of the compartment that holds the spare tire. Other than that it's great, car's one of the best deals I've ever made. My first car too

EDIT: Thought I'd spare some time. Here it is the day after I bought it, you can see the spot

 

nice, I like the ground fx. I seriously don't see that spot though. I know the location your talking about. mine has it there too, lol. you should take some sandpaper or steel wool to that rust on the underbody and just take some white spray paint to it. might not look great, but it'll keep it from ending up like mine.

 

 

Hey, I thought this was for louvers?

Anyhoo.......I got mine on the '91 Firebird and it was worth the 18.00 that I paid for them. The temperature here in San Antonio can cook eggs in your hatch area!

My son and I found them at the junk yard about a year ago. We took them home and lightly sanded them. Sprayed them with some SEM black paint and they look great. The black color adds some contrast to the car and drops the temp in the car by about 20 degrees, so the A/C feels much cooler.

I'll try and drop a picture in tomorrow.

Jim Berry.

 

18 dollars!? Jeez I'm about to pay 150

 

Those need to come off ASAP! Your brother failed

 

Ha I figured this would be the reply, but it's not that big of a deal to me. New hood or paintjob, whichever I can get/afford first, and that's that.

 

lol, what the hell, the other picture looked so good. thats ok, at least you have a good angle to take a picture of your car. those hood scoops are hilarious, are they the 5 hp models? lol. your front bumper looks much better than mine, don't worry. left side skirt? not a big deal.

 

Yeah I know, the first picture was right after a wash/wax. Also was in the sunlight.

Yeah the scoops are kinda lame but they were a Christmas gift and really don't look too bad. I'm thinking about spray painting them White to blend in maybe it'll look a bit better.

 

thats when i take most of my pictures. exept my camaro, I can only wax the hood. lol. yea, spray painting white might be a good idea. maybe taking off the hood scoops and putting a race car number on it!!!!!!!!! lol. hey, your getting a different hood anyway, why not?

 

As soon as I have a 100% guarantee about that new hood I'm not gonna do anything crazy. After I know for sure I'm getting one, I'll spray paint a damn smiley face on there if I have to ha

 

hey just saw the thread i have 1991 white z28 and i bougth a set of louvers last year from a guy on this site for 150 i had to paint them as they scratched up but i love my louvers more than anything i will try and post a pic when i pull it out of storage in few weeks if you like.

 

I have a stock hood, and a Z-28 hood i'd sell, i have a 3in fiberglass hood on it and that seems to be doing the trick, catch is the stocker is black and the z hood is red and black but pretty well mint.

the only rust problems I've had is around the t-tops and where I blew an air shock out and my oversized tires rubbed till I could limp her home.
wish I had some louvers, love the outlaw look and my tint pealed like an orange.

 

I always find it amusing that people want tint or louvers to "hide" such things like subs or amps. Because unless one never listens their stereo while they are driving around, people are going to know what you have.