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wind splitter and rear wind defuser
does anyone know where i can find any carbon fiber wind splitter and rear wind defusers for a 3rd gen of does anyone have any plans or ideas how to make them? i use to have a front splitter on my car made of sheetmetal but it was too heavy and was a quick and not planned out project. i know to some ppl its gaughty and even makes the car look like a catfish, but this time im making it for a fully fuctional time attack car and need the downforce
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Please, PLEASE, do not do something that horribly ugly to a Third Gen. It's hard enough to make them look good, with all respect due, don't trash it. Lower your car and pick up some Nitto tires, you'll be able to attack all the time you want.
It's not a 1,350 pound F1 car that takes tight corners at over 100 miles per hour, you do not need tons of down force. You'll be absolutely fine with a lowered center of gravity and some sticky tires.
It's not a 1,350 pound F1 car that takes tight corners at over 100 miles per hour, you do not need tons of down force. You'll be absolutely fine with a lowered center of gravity and some sticky tires.
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
yeah, that car is truly nasty. He has a build thread on here on that car. He also has the rear diffuser and a few other tuner-oriented goodies. I would definitely love to do my Trans Am like that if I had the $$$ I'll see if I can find his thread...
edit* I can't find his thread but I did find his CarDomain. Very sick car. TPI TERR also has a nice diffuser on his car, I plan to get one like his, you should look it up...
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edit* I can't find his thread but I did find his CarDomain. Very sick car. TPI TERR also has a nice diffuser on his car, I plan to get one like his, you should look it up...
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
Please, PLEASE, do not do something that horribly ugly to a Third Gen. It's hard enough to make them look good, with all respect due, don't trash it. Lower your car and pick up some Nitto tires, you'll be able to attack all the time you want.
It's not a 1,350 pound F1 car that takes tight corners at over 100 miles per hour, you do not need tons of down force. You'll be absolutely fine with a lowered center of gravity and some sticky tires.
It's not a 1,350 pound F1 car that takes tight corners at over 100 miles per hour, you do not need tons of down force. You'll be absolutely fine with a lowered center of gravity and some sticky tires.
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Fyi The blue car is bad a$$.
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
I think he was reffering to the Original pictures. That Blue car is a race car as far as i know, no street use so he does need the downforce. And to answer a previous question yes that guy with the blue third gen is on this Forum. can remeber his name, but i have seen him post oh here recently.
Fyi The blue car is bad a$$.
Fyi The blue car is bad a$$.
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I heard it was a pretty stout 305. Just becuase it is a 305 doesn't mean it doesn't need the down force. Any way it is proly a work in progress and is eventually gonna get a bigger engine. It would be best to ask the guy about his car first before you pass judgement on it.
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I've owned my 1987 Camaro IROC-Z with the 305 HO TPI, Borg Warner T-5 and 10-bolt 1LE differential for about 5-6 years.
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wow lol, that does look stout. and notice i didnt pass judgment about it, i said i HEARD...okay? but i was originally getting at is that "ChevyRS-305" using the same amount of downforce as the blue one is no differant. if he can, then y shouldnt ChevyRS-305??
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
The blue cars splitter is not just for Downforce but also for aerodynamics. By using a splitter it will stop alot of the air from going under the car and creating drag and lift. Alot of road racers will see a couple of second off a lap by adding a front spitter. It how ever does not make sense to put one a street car because it hangs so low it will be very difficult to drive on the street and keep it in one peice.
Its not a matter of just downforce, but the difference between full racing and street use.
If you look closely you cans see the blue car's splitter is removalble because he can't get it on the trailer with it on.
Its not a matter of just downforce, but the difference between full racing and street use.
If you look closely you cans see the blue car's splitter is removalble because he can't get it on the trailer with it on.
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I found this. Don't know if it could work on our cars.
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/a...0-p-81870.html
Also found a universal one that reminded me of the OP's
http://www.carbon-creations.com/shopexd.asp?id=3390
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/a...0-p-81870.html
Also found a universal one that reminded me of the OP's
http://www.carbon-creations.com/shopexd.asp?id=3390
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
Boy oh boy, I can't stand that "YOU HATIN!" crap. Usually it's not "hating", it's the truth. Reminds me of a moron with a Civic on 24's, that constantly gets made fun of, and just blames it on "haters".
I get a lot of compliments on my Ultra Blue IROC. But when I get them nasty comments from people who just don't care for Camaros, do I blame it on "HATIN!" No, I realize it's just not their thing.
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Nevermind.what i was gonna say would have been stupid. i saved everyone the trouble of reading it.
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Ignore this post.
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
Chevy305; don't worry about the crap some of these people are saying. Regardless if they are "haters" or not. I've been in this hobby long enough to realize that its your car and no matter what you do, you're never going to make anyone happy. There are a cars outthere that I don't necessarily like the look of (new Camaro) but that doesn't mean I'm going to bash and call it trash. I know enough to respect someones vehicle and whatever workmanship went into it. Even 4banger Honda civics running 400hp to the wheels....
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Chevy305; don't worry about the crap some of these people are saying. Regardless if they are "haters" or not. I've been in this hobby long enough to realize that its your car and no matter what you do, you're never going to make anyone happy. There are a cars outthere that I don't necessarily like the look of (new Camaro) but that doesn't mean I'm going to bash and call it trash. I know enough to respect someones vehicle and whatever workmanship went into it. Even 4banger Honda civics running 400hp to the wheels....
Look, what I'm saying is, the original pictures he had of a chin spoiler. wind diffuser, whatever it was, he has better options. Options that will look extremely good, such as Brent's Camaro.
I'm in no way bashing his idea of trying to get more downforce for any type of time attack/autocross he does. Before I simply stated that lowering the center of gravity of the car and getting some stickier tires would have a noticeable improvement.
Just so we're clear, I couldn't care less what he does to his car. I don't care if he paints it pink, puts on a spoiler that's bigger than me, or even takes it to the junkyard. I'm just trying to say that there are better options. Plus, I'd really hate to see him get that catfish front spoiler thing, he'd get laughed at frequently.
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
just to let everyone know i was 16 at the time and just messing around with ideas. some ppl laughed some ppl thought it was cool. but this time im actually wanting the downforce. if i could just get the chin spoiler that would be fine to so i can direct airflow to my intercooler and radiator, and not to mention reducing lift under the car, and yes of corse it will be removable but like i said its a show/ drift kinda time attack car. ALL in all its something you dont see everyday and and it provides fuction and goes with the flow of the "style" im trying to accomplish... that this car can go fast and is mean! i think everyone tries to do that just in different ways. i dont want anyone to **** anyone off or me the same. its like battle of the old school and new school here. no one is going to win and there will never be a happy median. face it we are all stuborne
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
here, I found this pic of a Camaro in Japan, note the wind splitters on the front...
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
just to let everyone know i was 16 at the time and just messing around with ideas. some ppl laughed some ppl thought it was cool. but this time im actually wanting the downforce. if i could just get the chin spoiler that would be fine to so i can direct airflow to my intercooler and radiator, and not to mention reducing lift under the car, and yes of corse it will be removable but like i said its a show/ drift kinda time attack car. ALL in all its something you dont see everyday and and it provides fuction and goes with the flow of the "style" im trying to accomplish... that this car can go fast and is mean! i think everyone tries to do that just in different ways. i dont want anyone to **** anyone off or me the same. its like battle of the old school and new school here. no one is going to win and there will never be a happy median. face it we are all stuborne
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one question if your building your car for racing in time attack why in the world do you have neons under it....?
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not sure if anyone is still interested but ill be making my own front wind diffuser/splitter thinger soonish. Hopefully today. Ill let you know how it goes : )
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I'm still interested to see how it turns out...
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Is it going to be functional? Which one are you doing, a diffuser or a splitter? splitters are fairly easy to design and make. If it's a diffuser than is it going to be for the front or the rear? If your doing a front diffuser then I would really love to see and hear your design thoughts as they are very complicated and hard to incorporate into the front end, especially with the engine location and the design of the stock exhaust routing.
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Stop hating? Please, don't give me that damn BS. I'm not hating, I'm telling the truth, the cars in the OP's post were hideous. The blue Camaro? Yeah, that thing's real sharp, I like it. The thing that looks like a catfish? It belongs in a garbage can. I doubt it was even designed for downforce, most likely for r!cers.
Boy oh boy, I can't stand that "YOU HATIN!" crap. Usually it's not "hating", it's the truth. Reminds me of a moron with a Civic on 24's, that constantly gets made fun of, and just blames it on "haters".
I get a lot of compliments on my Ultra Blue IROC. But when I get them nasty comments from people who just don't care for Camaros, do I blame it on "HATIN!" No, I realize it's just not their thing.
I hope you understand.
Boy oh boy, I can't stand that "YOU HATIN!" crap. Usually it's not "hating", it's the truth. Reminds me of a moron with a Civic on 24's, that constantly gets made fun of, and just blames it on "haters".
I get a lot of compliments on my Ultra Blue IROC. But when I get them nasty comments from people who just don't care for Camaros, do I blame it on "HATIN!" No, I realize it's just not their thing.
I hope you understand.
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Is this car real? It looks photoshopped to me but I could be wrong. Anyway personally I really don't like the looks of it but the only thing that keeps running through my head is going over speed bumps with it or steep driveways. If it's a racecar and it actually works cool more power to him but I really don't think this would be a very good street option. By the way just to let everyone know I am not a hater I am just giving my opinion everybody is entitled to that but to anyone wanting to do this to a street car I just don't think it's a very good idea.
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Is this car real? It looks photoshopped to me but I could be wrong. Anyway personally I really don't like the looks of it but the only thing that keeps running through my head is going over speed bumps with it or steep driveways. If it's a racecar and it actually works cool more power to him but I really don't think this would be a very good street option. By the way just to let everyone know I am not a hater I am just giving my opinion everybody is entitled to that but to anyone wanting to do this to a street car I just don't think it's a very good idea.
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Look, people need to leave everyone else alone, the idea behind modifying a car is to suit your individual likes and personality, not everyone on here has a ******... for more people are leaning towards the tuner styling and V6 building than just throwing the biggest V8 in a car because it sounds good... open a magazine people, asian cars are dominating the tracks with 1k HP 4 bangers!!! and to prove a point im going to build an F body street tuner with a V6 and post pics on here with dyno printouts so all of us V6 enthusiasts can make some of these older guys eat their ******s!!
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Look, people need to leave everyone else alone, the idea behind modifying a car is to suit your individual likes and personality, not everyone on here has a ******... for more people are leaning towards the tuner styling and V6 building than just throwing the biggest V8 in a car because it sounds good... open a magazine people, asian cars are dominating the tracks with 1k HP 4 bangers!!! and to prove a point im going to build an F body street tuner with a V6 and post pics on here with dyno printouts so all of us V6 enthusiasts can make some of these older guys eat their ******s!!
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i have done alot of research into parts upgrades for a 92 RS running the 3.1L and to be honest you can easily get that engine up to 350 hp with some upgrades and its possible to do it all under 3 grand... thats including an engine rebuild kit, Monster transmission shift and rebuild kit pulleys, bigger fuel pump pressure reg. and bigger injectors and exhaust... if you replace those parts and throw in some sort of chip flash or programmer that alone should net you between 180 to 200 horses off of this under appreciated engine... i believe super dave is pushing high 300's to 400's with a stock engine new exhaust and a turbo... and he drives the car regularly... so you cannot tell me that your going to spend a ton of money tuning that engine... all it takes is a little know how some patience and alot of searching for parts...
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I'm personally not a huge fan of diffusers on the 3rd gen, but to each their own.
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Well their not vary "clean" in styling but on the other hand if built right they are vary useful in a race aplications. Makes all the difference at high speed from pissing yourself to just puckerin up your butt hole from a squirmy car in turbulence. Granted not everyone is into high speed runs. Most do auto x or drag racing where diffusers are pointless, making them not on the popular side of discussion.
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Speed here is my quest, I plan on the 200MPH Club!!! Yes, the function is what I am lookin for. I like my third gen in it's original form, however I need to make a few temp mods and some permanent to get me to and through 200mph, I think all of you can understand my cercumstance.
Thanks for any help as well....
Thanks for any help as well....
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Re: wind splitter and rear wind defuser
Best bet is to buy a front diffuser from apr and make sure you mount it to your frame rails some how not your bumper. Also a full belly pan and rear diffuser would be a good way to direct air flow throughout its travel under your car so its not just spinning around creating turbulence and causing lift.
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Best bet is to buy a front diffuser from apr and make sure you mount it to your frame rails some how not your bumper. Also a full belly pan and rear diffuser would be a good way to direct air flow throughout its travel under your car so its not just spinning around creating turbulence and causing lift.
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For inspiration google "underside enzo ferrari"