87bluebird

has anyone ever put windows in the sail panels?
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i know thats a structural area of the roof so you'd have to keep a reinforcement bar along the side by the door.
can this be done?
can it be done with windows that role up and down?
has anyone attempted this?
what would be a good vehicle to get the window from?
don't just say because i did.

and found 2 threads discussing this the first one is from 2001 and no one seemed to think it would work. Windows in Sail Panel?

the second thread i found is from 2005 and that guy was actually going to change the whole roof style. i was just thinking of adding a window. Should I put Quarter windows in my Bird?

PRMRD88GTA

That looks HORRIBLE!!!! Please dont do that to another F Body. What a waste.

TheMonster

Wow...that is all I can say.

Bull

iTrader: (5)

There are so many way to tastefully modify and upgrade a car, I don't understand why folks look for wacky stuff like this to do.

Don't commit this styling crime! It looks terrible.

camaronewbie

I have to say I'm not fond of it either, but...

As you mention it's a huge structural issue. I think you'd definitely need subframe connectors installed before even thinking of it, as that's the area where the roofs crack even on the hardtop cars from the unibody twisting. The twisting occurs with normal driving, not just because of track torque - ever leave a parkinglot on an incline where you are turning onto a road that is level? You can feel the unibody twisting when that happens.

I'd also think a roll bar would be a necessity - even if just a simple 4pt like the light bars in the back of p/u trucks. You'd get squished for sure if you cut out that much pillar area and flipped.

And I'd think it would be much better if it was centered in the panel, not against the glass like that pic. Looks to me like that car would become a bathtub in a good rain!

87bluebird

subframe connectors and a roll cage will go in my car. i am not sure if i will do a window here or not. that was just a quick Photoshop of a 96 grand am window. i am still not sure what would work best. and your right it should be centered.

and the top and bottom should line up with door window.

C.M.Jones

if you put a rollbar in the bar is going to be right where the window would be so whats the point?

86NiteRider

iTrader: (10)

IMHO it looks dumb. The flow of the car is thrown off by the sail panel window. Besides that there is more than enough glass on a thirdgen. Honestly I think GM had the design right and many owners try to improve on what GM did but really end up messing with a good thing.

BigBadGTA

it looked retarded please do not attempt...

Badass355ciz28

iTrader: (17)

DO NOT ATTEMPT................... looks so ghey.............

HankL69

iTrader: (1)

NO!

Pairof91rss

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Honestly, it looks horrid, the lines dont match up, and it changes the whole look of the car, and definitely NOT for the better.

ericjon262

if you can find windows that fit the body better, go for it, otherwise, it's a no go.

IROC#1

Thats the worst looking mod I have ever seen! It doesnt flow with the lines of the car. Your car will be worthless if you do this.

Gumby

folks shouldn't judge it by his hack mspaint editing.

one of the mods did some nice ones like this for a hard top mod for the verts.



https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/conv...-hard-top.html

Mathius

That might look better if the b-pillars on the roof were moved back.

Mathius

deadbird

Which his car isn't one if, that is indeed his in the original post.

Not everyone cares for tacky, ugly mods just because it's different, it's not a matter of being closed minded. Not only is it ugly and unfitting to the design of the car overall (even in the good chop), it's useless.

87bluebird

thats not my car. mine is a blue hardtop firebird. i did that quick photoshop to show what i was talking about so there would be no confusion. not that that is what it would end up looking like. but i guess everyone here loves there blindspot.

anyone that said it would look alright with a different window. can you do a photoshop of a window that looks goo to you.

Bull

iTrader: (5)

Do you have the skills necessary to perform this mod without it being a terrible hack job? I think even Foose would struggle with this one.

87bluebird

first off foose is an artist not a builder. and it wont take a lot of skill to get a window in there.

Bull

iTrader: (5)

True. It could be done with a piece of glass, a sawzall, and a couple tubes of silicone caulk.

But to do it properly, so it looks clean from the outside and the inside, is a different story.

That's why I asked if you had the skills for it.

budofbama31313

Here's you an idea. Go make/find some of those magnetic windows Cheech and Chong used on their van in their "Up in Smoke" movie and whenever somebody starts busting your ***** to much, just drive outta sight and rip them off. Then drive back just as cool as ever. But on a serious note, with the roof line of a hard/T-top car it just doesn't flow. Now however that photochop with what looks to be a Monte roof and vert decklid, it does flow better. Would I care to do it, probably not, but it's your car. If you got the time, talent and wallet to do it, go for it. Be the first and prove all us wrong.

deadbird

never had an issue. I'm never a rear seat passenger in my car. Not even an issue for my '71, I can look over my shoulder or, use the door rear view mirror.

To each their own though, you like it, go for it. F the negative comments, you only have to make you happy.

modern0utlaw

I think it could be done tastefully, I'd like to see someone go for it

87bluebird

yeah you can bend and look around it but it would be nice to just turn your head and see whats coming down the hill at you.without leaning over the steering wheel. i am not sure i will do this or not. i am gonna do most of the other body mods i have planned first. and look to see if i can find a window that will look rite.

hardon85

Ok I was wondering why you wanted to do this My first question is how long have you been driving this car? I am very **** about blindspots and have passed on many cars because I didn't like how I could see out of them. But when I bought my 97 camaro I got used to it after about 6 months of driving it, that car got totaled out in 2004 and I hadn't been in a Camaro since but when I picked up my 92 I never even noticed it I guess in the 6 years since I was last in a F-body I was still used to the blindspot even though it was a different generation car. In all reality between the mirrors and the large hatchglass I don't think there is a very big blindspot at all, it's just different and not like any other car. I have never read about anyone else on this board who has a problem with the blindspot so I would just give it some time drive it do other mods and I'm sure by that time it won't bother you anymore since you will be used to it just like all of us have done.