Body General body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modifications.

floor advice wanted .....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 12:46 PM
  #1  
a86z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
floor advice wanted .....

Hi i am new to this forum and ive been poking arround for a week or so trying to find a detailed thread on floor pan removal +install but i cannot seem to find exactly what im looking for..

im pretty handy with body work and such and have all the necessary tools..
m acustomed to working on full frame cars for the exeption of my last project a 79 t\a that needed little floor repair and only two frame sections repaired\replaced .....

i reacently got a steal on an 86 z28 that has extensive floor damage but the frame is near mint condition (still unshure how that hapened lol) (ugh canadian cars suck for this)

my question is this on a unibody car in this case the 3rd gen camaros if i want to replace floor pans completly (i dont do ******* fixes) would one be better to weld braces on the frame rails prior to pulling the floor pans out or should it hold its self together if bracing in my opinion is always a good idea where would be good known spots to suport it ......

secondly if annyone remembers a good thread on this subject would you direct me to it please and thankyou....

I am already planning putting braces in the doors and such to prevent flexing because its a coupe z28 and im planing to cut the top off to install the T-top from an 84 berlinetta that i got with the z-28...

thank you for your input on this...
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 01:02 PM
  #2  
88gunmetalgta's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,013
Likes: 2
Re: floor advice wanted .....

I'll be tackling the project this winter too.

I was planning on leveling the car on jackstands and just replacing one side at a time.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 01:56 PM
  #3  
haps's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 595
Likes: 1
From: St. Louis
Car: 91 Z28
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: floor advice wanted .....

No bracing needed if you're doing one side at a time.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2011 | 02:45 AM
  #4  
Chevy8588's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 972
Likes: 2
From: La Grange Park, IL
Car: 1987 Iroc Z28/ 1982 Z28
Engine: 355 TPI IP/ 305 CFI
Transmission: T-56/ 300C
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open/ 3.73 Posi
Re: floor advice wanted .....

I would weld in brace bars between the doors, the floors are VERY structural, and when the pans are out the frame rails wil be allowed to flex if they want, ive seen soo many third gens in junk yards with the frame rails jammed up 3 to 4 inches
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2011 | 06:43 AM
  #5  
a86z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Originally Posted by Chevy8588
I would weld in brace bars between the doors, the floors are VERY structural, and when the pans are out the frame rails wil be allowed to flex if they want, ive seen soo many third gens in junk yards with the frame rails jammed up 3 to 4 inches



this is exactly what i was concerned about......ive personally never seen it but i thaught it was possible......i guess im gonna have to go in the garage and really think on how to brace the frame rails so they cant moove.....
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2011 | 07:09 AM
  #6  
haps's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 595
Likes: 1
From: St. Louis
Car: 91 Z28
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: floor advice wanted .....

I just complete both sides, full length, doing one at a time without any bracing and it turned out just fine. The tunnel and the rockers keep it square. Additional bracing is fine, but unnecessary.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:48 AM
  #7  
VMX12Rider's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Topeka, KS
Car: 90 RS
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Not to jack the thread.. but my newest project needs some floor attention too. It's not terrible, but I see opportunity in there. Seeing I need to yank the seats and carpet anyways, why not install some subframe connectors? I figure get a set of weld-ins that require 'cutting' on the floor, trim out the rest of the rust and then just patch gaps between the floor and the SFC.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 01:49 PM
  #8  
88gunmetalgta's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,013
Likes: 2
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Originally Posted by VMX12Rider
Not to jack the thread.. but my newest project needs some floor attention too. It's not terrible, but I see opportunity in there. Seeing I need to yank the seats and carpet anyways, why not install some subframe connectors? I figure get a set of weld-ins that require 'cutting' on the floor, trim out the rest of the rust and then just patch gaps between the floor and the SFC.
What SFCs require cutting? But yeah, that's the very reason I haven't put in SFCs yet. No sense welding them to a rusty floorpan. I will be putting in UMI SFCs as soon as the seam sealer sets on the new floor pans.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 03:11 AM
  #9  
VMX12Rider's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Topeka, KS
Car: 90 RS
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Originally Posted by 88gunmetalgta
What SFCs require cutting? But yeah, that's the very reason I haven't put in SFCs yet. No sense welding them to a rusty floorpan. I will be putting in UMI SFCs as soon as the seam sealer sets on the new floor pans.
I think it was a Comp Engineering one I was looking at Weld In Style. Said something about subframe modification as well IIRC.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 05:19 PM
  #10  
91 Droptop's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
From: FL
Engine: 355 Super Charged
Transmission: B&M Streetfighter
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 342
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Hap is correct, if you do one side and weld it all in then do the other there will be no flex. If you are worried and feel the need to brace things, tach some square stock under the car rail to rail on the front and back
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:33 PM
  #11  
a86z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Re: floor advice wanted .....

Originally Posted by 91 Droptop
Hap is correct, if you do one side and weld it all in then do the other there will be no flex. If you are worried and feel the need to brace things, tach some square stock under the car rail to rail on the front and back
thanks that probably is the best idea for me.....ive only inspected the floor from the underside i havent taken the interior out yet..i just finishing on stripping the donor berlinetta tonight.....i will get arround to taking the interior out this week end at some piont....im woried that shes rotten between the trans hump and the subframe but either way its gotta be done right ....
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jaridjohn
History / Originality
7
Jul 8, 2024 03:49 PM
E Rod
LTX and LSX
5
Aug 28, 2015 05:17 AM
Derick15
Members Camaros
10
Aug 20, 2015 10:19 AM
86White_T/A305
LTX and LSX
0
Aug 17, 2015 12:16 AM
Ginamariegault
Brakes
1
Aug 10, 2015 08:33 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:17 PM.