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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 01:27 PM
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91-92 Firebird rear tail light lenses..."PONTIAC" logo???

The bck of my 91 GTA tail light lenses have the PONTIAC name written across the center black section in pink writing. Here is my car if you need to see what I am talking about: https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index...ew&rideid=1212

I eventually want to get new lenses, even though they are pretty pricey (almost $400 for both sides). I was wondering, do all the 91-92 Birds have PONTIAC across the back like mine do? Well, I know the V6/TBI Firebird models dont, I am pretty sure they have the Firebird logo there instead. If anyone has a 91-92 Firebird with the PONTIAC name written across the back could you please let me know...was this just a Trans AM/GTA thing?
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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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Your style tail lights are on the 91-92 GTA's only
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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 02:46 PM
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Thanks Omega....

Another specialty item that I will have to order from Pontiac directly...hmm, I wonder how much they cost?...and do I really want to know the answer? LOL
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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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Actually it is painted like that on all 91-92 Trans Am and GTA taillight lenses. I need to repaint the letters back on my GTA, they washed off over the years

The cheaper Firebirds of those years don't have the smoked lenses like our GTA's....

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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 12:13 AM
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I am very much interested in a pair of these exact taillamps for my 86 TA. However, i would like to avoid paying 360 dollars per side, as quoted by the dealer. Anyone have an idea of where to get a set? I search the classefieds daily, and to no avail...

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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 01:38 PM
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Well, I got some info for those that are interested.

According to people I spoke to at Year One and at my local Pontiac parts department, for 91-92, the Trans Am rear tail light lenses were solid black in the center while the GTA's had the name "PONTIAC" written across them.

You are able to order 91-92 Trans Am tail lenses via Year One for $197 a side. Keep in mind that these are the straight black lenses without the "PONTIAC" name written in red. Here is the address: http://www.yearone.com/nextgenparts/...ngbody100.html

Seeing as I own a 91 GTA with the PONTIAC name scrolled across the back on my lenses, I really would like to get those, so I called my local Pontaic dealer. I found out that you are still able to order the GTA style "PONTIAC" lenses though GM for $208 a side.

These are pretty pricey, but in the long run may be worth it for some of you...wish I had the money to splurge!
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 01:41 PM
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I almost forgot, the part numbers for the 91-92 GTA lenses are as follows:

16513595 - LH side
16513596 - RH side

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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 02:07 PM
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I bought a set of those lights--1 side of Pontiac is worn off too--guess it's common!
I found a place on the net that sells them for $143 each side--I'm not sure if they're the ones that says Pontiac. Still that's a great price!!
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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Just wanted to let you guys know that I checked the part #'s and it's the same ones.
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 03:31 PM
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Apone, thank you for the web address...i will check it out...TONYRODZ-where on the net did you find the ones that said "PONTIAC" in the center for $143/side???? Please post the link and the part #'s if you could. My local pontiac dealer wants $370/side....please post that link...



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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 04:14 PM
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gmpartsdirect.com has them. $147 per side (THAT INCLUDES SHIPING) it was 124 before shiping... just though i would let you know.
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 04:53 PM
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Thanks Dewey...I never knew that site even existed!
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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 05:51 PM
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Are these also the ones that have "PONTIAC" written across the back? The ones from GMpartsdirect.com?

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Random Tech High-Flow Cat
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1999 Grand Am GT In-Dash CD Player w/Equalizer(fits like '86 original)
5% Tint On Rear, 35% On Sides
http://www.pitt.edu/~zyhst/trans86/

OTHER RIDE:
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Silver w/Gray Leather Int.
12/14 Options
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Best 1/4th: 13.5 @ 104.4MPH

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Old Apr 26, 2001 | 08:45 PM
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Look, both the Trans Am and GTA lens have the word "PONTIAC" molded into them and BOTH the Trans Am and GTA have the name painted in, not just the GTA. Who ever told you that just the GTA is painted in is WRONG.

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Old Apr 27, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 92GTA:
Look, both the Trans Am and GTA lens have the word "PONTIAC" molded into them and BOTH the Trans Am and GTA have the name painted in, not just the GTA. Who ever told you that just the GTA is painted in is WRONG.

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Definately wrong... My T/A has it.



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Old Apr 27, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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Actually you are just misinformed. Your TA had it brand new but it probably washed off during it's first car wash. My GTA doesn't have it painted there any more because mine washed off too. Trust, I've seen enough original TA's to know that it was there from the factory.
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Old Apr 27, 2001 | 01:50 PM
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Read your message again. Then read mine. I'm agreeing with you.... I'm quite aware of what my car does and doesn't have, dude.
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Old Apr 27, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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Ok, sorry man. I read it the wrong wayn no hard fellings right
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Old Apr 28, 2001 | 01:33 PM
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Here's the link for them-----------------
http://www.partszoneonline.com/Cart....uctId=16513595
Let me know if you're able to get it.

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Old Apr 28, 2001 | 11:54 PM
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Thanks Tonyrodz....it takes me right to the description and i can go from there One more question...do these come with the wiring harnesses, or no?

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Old Apr 29, 2001 | 08:04 AM
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Actually,I've seen both T/As and GTAs both with and without the PONTIAC logos on the taillights and this was when they were BRAND NEW in the dealerships. I have a set with the logo on my Formula and it looks great.

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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 08:31 AM
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Actually those taillights came on all 91-92 Trans am's and GTA's, The formula got the same tailights as they did before , I am looking for a set of Trans am tail lights for my formula
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 11:51 AM
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Good luck in finding them used! No one wants to give them up, and if they do they want a fortune for them!! you're better off buying them new-even if you have to buy one at a time. And no they don't come w/a harness. The regular T/A should fit the lenses. If they don't you can go to the Help section of your parts store and buy the required receptacle(that's what I did to my Formula).
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 05:27 PM
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5% Tint On Rear, 35% On Sides
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Old May 1, 2001 | 09:17 AM
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I changed the stock ones for the GTA/TA lights. It didn't come with them stock. Sorry for not saying that the first time.

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Old May 2, 2001 | 09:04 AM
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90 TA and GTa's didnt come with the Two piece tail lights , They where a 91-92 Only style
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Old May 2, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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Old May 2, 2001 | 04:27 PM
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sorry double post!

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Old May 2, 2001 | 07:39 PM
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If I'm not mistaken doesn't the V6 and formula models have pontiac written on the center piece of the tail lights underneath the little "bird"?

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Old May 2, 2001 | 11:01 PM
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Yes they do but they're different from the 91-92 style. 92 style is a 2 piece and the other models are 3 pieces.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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91-92 taillights in my 89 GTA
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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I know gtaemblems.com sells the gold lettering for the 91-92 taillights. Does anyone else?

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