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Old 04-10-2003, 12:43 AM
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Swapped rears, any tricks for e-brake cables?

I just swapped to a 4th gen rear and now the parking brake cables don't reach the old bracket. The gap is between where the cable splits from one cable to two cables. Are there any tricks or junkyard parts (aside from a complete 4th gen setup) that would fix this? How have you fixed it?

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Why not just buy 10ft of cable and rework it right from the pull so it's of proper length?
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How far away are the caliper cables from the adjustment bracket?

Whose cables did you use; the 4th gen's, or your originals?
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I left the stock cable on up untill when it splits to become two cables. The 4th gen's cables are at that exact point as well, but on the 4th gen cars, the cable splits further back, hence the gap between the cables. I was just wondering if there were any quick fixes that involved just bolting on a part.
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Maybe some 90-92 disk brake parking brake cables?

I can't feature that it's possible to make parking brake cables, without some kind of crimping apparatus. They're pretty heavy duty.
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Here's a bad pic of what that setup looks like.
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I have the cables attached at the calipers, the gap is right about where the driveshaft meets the pumpkin of the diff (U joint).
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Brkt.

I manufactured this brkt. and tack welded it to the floor support.
There is a metal plate right next to where the 4th gen cables end up above the driveshaft.
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I did the 4th gen rear swap. I went from my 3rg gen drum to 4th gen disc. I just went to the dealer and got some 3rd gen disc cables in the longer length (there are 2 lenghts) And they fit right into all the stock mounting spots.
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here's what i did. the shielded parts of the fourth gen cables are really long for our cars so i put the left side cable in the factory right side bracket and vice versa. i got a couple one foot sections of steel rope, some hollow cylinders that you crimp, and six small u-bolts. i put the cylinders on one end of the steel rope and then wailed on it with a BFH. that's the end of the cable that hooks onto the factory bracket that attaches to the cable that goes to the handle. for the end that attaches to the fourthgen cables, i put the steel rope parallel to the fourth gen ends and then crimped it down with three u-joints. works well and only cost a few bucks. i'll try to get some pics later to show it better
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I bought the Lokar Braided Stainless Steel E-Brake Cables when I swapped rears in my 92. Nice kit, cut to length, adjustable.
Kind of expensive, though.

http://www.lokar.com/brake_con_cables.html

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Hey...Ukraine...any luck on the pics yet....I am doing this now and could use the help the pics would provide.
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sorry no pics yet, i haven't had the car off the ground yet. i drew up this quick sketch of what it looks like though. the small u-bolts and the crimpable cylinders came from home depot in the aisle where they keep the steel rope. i just slipped the cylinders over the end of the rope and hammered on them to crimp them. if it's not clear just ask
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Thaks for the sketch...I actually tried it but your way looks a little better. I just need a few more things but it's working for now. Thanks for the help.
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I made a bracket similar to dynodons... it works but I wish I had made it wider. I dont really like the way the crimped studs of the cables fit into the connector but it looks like it will stay... Right now its working just fine and I get a solid emergency brake lock... if my cable slip out, Ill go with the extended cable/u-bolts method and use the stock mounting points.
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Originally posted by Ukraine Train
here's what i did. the shielded parts of the fourth gen cables are really long for our cars so i put the left side cable in the factory right side bracket and vice versa. i got a couple one foot sections of steel rope, some hollow cylinders that you crimp, and six small u-bolts. i put the cylinders on one end of the steel rope and then wailed on it with a BFH. that's the end of the cable that hooks onto the factory bracket that attaches to the cable that goes to the handle. for the end that attaches to the fourthgen cables, i put the steel rope parallel to the fourth gen ends and then crimped it down with three u-joints. works well and only cost a few bucks. i'll try to get some pics later to show it better
I tried A set up like that my first time around. I had 4th gen disc brake cables. The end of the cable came to the bracket (I didnt need extension cable) Bu the problem was, the tip of the cable was a differant shape than the org cables, so they wouldnt fit into the bracket hole. I used the U bolt to attach the cable to the bracket, but that broke in about a week. I also wasnt tight enough and wold touch the drive shaft when I turnned.

So make it easy for you self and get some 3rd gen e-brake cables for disc brakes, and get the longer of the 2 sizes.
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Originally posted by Ukraine Train
sorry no pics yet, i haven't had the car off the ground yet. i drew up this quick sketch of what it looks like though. the small u-bolts and the crimpable cylinders came from home depot in the aisle where they keep the steel rope. i just slipped the cylinders over the end of the rope and hammered on them to crimp them. if it's not clear just ask
Are the cables supposed to end up "switching sides" at the end??
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Originally posted by jawzforlife1
I did the 4th gen rear swap. I went from my 3rg gen drum to 4th gen disc. I just went to the dealer and got some 3rd gen disc cables in the longer length (there are 2 lenghts) And they fit right into all the stock mounting spots.
Sounds like the best way to do it. Are you referring to the e-brake cables? Cause thats the only thing I have heard people having problems with. Cause i'm about to do this swap next weekend hopefully and hes going to give me all the cables with the rear.
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Originally posted by jawzforlife1
I did the 4th gen rear swap. I went from my 3rg gen drum to 4th gen disc. I just went to the dealer and got some 3rd gen disc cables in the longer length (there are 2 lenghts) And they fit right into all the stock mounting spots.
Do you have the GM part number for the longer cables?
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Re: Swapped rears, any tricks for e-brake cables?

Does anyone know if 10164125 is the right part number for the longer cable? If so this crosses to Dorman c94264 for around $20 a cable. Trying to get the parts together to do the rear brakes now that I've done the front and engine swap.
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Re: Swapped rears, any tricks for e-brake cables?

Dorman makes both lengths for Disc type rear e brake cables

C94597 Parking Brake Cable Application Summary: Chevrolet Camaro 1992-91, Pontiac Firebird 1992-91 Application Notes: Rear Left; Rear Right; Rear Disc Brakes; 1460 mm Length

C94264 Parking Brake Cable Application Summary: Chevrolet Camaro 1992-90, Pontiac Firebird 1992-90 Application Notes: Rear Left; Rear Right; Rear Disc Brakes; 1434 mm Length

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