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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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rear ford explorer brake questions

Ok my moser ford nine inch is in my car and I just need to hook up the brakes. Today I went to run new hard lines from the "T" at the end of the rubber hose that mounts to the original rear end but the brakes are not set up for this. The brake are ford explorer 11" disk brakes and from what I have seen I believe that the calipers are set up to take a rubber brake hose attached with a 3/8x24 banjo bolt and sealed with a copper washer (like our front calipers).

What has everyone been using to run there brake lines. I quickly looked on summit and found a 3/8x24 banjo to 3/8 addapter but am unsure what the thread is on a standard brake line.

My next question has to do with the parking brake, can I adapt my stock ones? What do most people do.

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

I'm guessing you've never worked on rear discs before?

Given that the caliper has to move around, it's pretty common to set rear discs up like that. A steel line would eventually break from being bent around different ways all the time.

The 89-up brakes for these cars use a rubber hose at each caliper.

Don't use hard line screwed directly into some adapter, that's just asking for disaster.

The smart thing to do would be to go to the junkyard and get the lines off of an Explorer rear end.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

what year ford explorer brakes are you using, im got a 9 inch withdrums id like to do disks on it....
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

Ya, I work on disk brakes all the time, I just had a hugh brain fart.

Swapping rear drums to disks should I change or put in a porportioning valve in? I believe disks operate at a much lower pressure then drums?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

IIRC the Explorer brakes are a super common way to go, on the 9"; direct bolt-up and everything. Not sure how hard it would be to change from drums to those though, you might have to get the rear set up for them from Moser otr whoever.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

Ford sells a kit Part #M-2300-G cost $320-340. For the line any auto parts store will have new ones at a low cost.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

I got my rear disks from Moser. I believe that if you buy these from a part store of Ford you will have to open up the center hole so the axle bearing will fit in. I could be wrong but I think that Moser already does this and it is a direct fit.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

I could be wrong but don't disc take more press, cause drums use the rotation of the drum to pull the shoes out into the drum as it rotates.
While pads are just pushed in and have no help at all.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Re: rear ford explorer brake questions

You're sorta right. Drums are more "efficient" meaning that discs would need more force to equal the stopping power of drums. That's why calipers have way bigger pistons than wheel cylinders. Force= Area of piston X P.S.I.
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