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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

For you guys who've converted to 1LE front brakes on '89 and up cars with the factory rear PBR brakes - do you need a different proportioning valve?
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Old May 29, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

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For you guys who've converted to 1LE front brakes on '89 and up cars with the factory rear PBR brakes - do you need a different proportioning valve?
I'm not exactly answering your question; however, I converted to both the 1LE fronts and PBR rears. I use the 1LE proportioning valve along with what would be an OE master on an 89+ car. The link I provided elsewhere on the 1LE conversion also has info on PBR's (and what proportioning valve and master are required) that you may find interesting.

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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

I have the same question.

I have a 91 GTA with factory PBR rear brakes and I'm thinking of installing 1LE front brakes. I believe its the same proportioning valve as I have right now.

JamesC, could you post a link?

Thx.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

From what I have found in a search and in my parts catalog a 91-92 J65(front and rear disc) cars used the same P/V as an 1LE car.

Seems like 89-90 is a lot harder to figure out.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

I emailed Spohn. They said my prop valve would be fine.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

It seems the main issue with P/Vs is the threads. Makes me wonder if there are any thread issues with the flex lines.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

I have a 91 GTA with factory PBR rear brakes and I'm thinking of installing 1LE front brakes. I believe its the same proportioning valve as I have right now.

JamesC, could you post a link?

The following link is the original how-to:

http://web.archive.org/web/200605221.../1LEbrake.html

The flex lines aren't an issue.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

The main issue is the thread count on the M/C, P/V and the short hard lines that connect them. The hard lines from the P/V to flex lines have the same thread count from 82-92?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Originally Posted by Dokken10
The hard lines from the P/V to flex lines have the same thread count from 82-92?
By flex lines, I'm talking about the line from hardline to caliper.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Lets get on the same page. Listed in order starting at the M/C.

1. M/C
2. Short hardlines.
3. P/V
4. Hardlines to the flex(rubber, soft)lines.
5. Flex lines
6. Calipers.

Is the thread count the same where 4 and 5 connect the same from 82-92?

Or is it just the thread count between 1, 2 ,3 and 4 the issue between the years?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Originally Posted by Dokken10
Lets get on the same page. Listed in order starting at the M/C.

1. M/C
2. Short hardlines.
3. P/V
4. Hardlines to the flex(rubber, soft)lines.
5. Flex lines
6. Calipers.

Is the thread count the same where 4 and 5 connect the same from 82-92?

Or is it just the thread count between 1, 2 ,3 and 4 the issue between the years?
I upgraded my 85 to 1LE. Because of thread count, I used the first design proportioning valve. It was a simple bolt-up to existing lines,(2 & 4). Since 82-83 had some SAE pieces, I'd guess 84+ are the same (5 & 6).
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Originally Posted by JamesC
I upgraded my 85 to 1LE. Because of thread count, I used the first design proportioning valve. It was a simple bolt-up to existing lines,(2 & 4). Since 82-83 had some SAE pieces, I'd guess 84+ are the same (5 & 6).
I'm more concerned about the 4 & 5 connection.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Originally Posted by Dokken10
I'm more concerned about the 4 & 5 connection.
I've never heard of anyone having issues there--I didn't.

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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Brining this thread back from the dead instead of starting a new one. Does anyone know for sure that the 1le, and 89-92 j65 cars use the same proportioning valve? I did a c4HD conversion on my car a few years ago, and braking has seemed to be sub par, and since this is basically the same as a 1LE setup I wanted to make sure I have the correct prop valve.
The car in question is 89 Iroc with J65.
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

I keep getting mixed answers

According to this thread they are the same
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...-answered.html
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

Aside from the first and second design which has to do with thread pitch, they're the same.

1st design: M1.0 tube nut threads (early 1989 applications).
2nd design: M1.5 tube nut threads (late 1989 through 92).

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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Proportioning valve question on 1LE conversion...

That's the answer I was hoping for thanks james
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