can u go lower than 20 inch wheels with these brakes?

 

I have 19x8s and 10s that I plan on mounting. 19s and larger are required, especially for the rear.


Ed please read post #49. Thanks

 

Josh,

Look at the third last picture in post #40, you see the interference between the mounting boss of the caliper and the bracket. An 1/8" needs to be machined off of the face of the caliper that goes against the bracket to allow it to all fit and bolt up.

The last two pictures showed that ed spaced out the rotor with washers over the wheel stud, in a pinch, to give the clearance he needed for the test fit he was doing.

Derek

 

That's what I figured, I just wanted to be clear. Thank you for the clarification

 

nice set up ebmiller!! would these bring in the rear wheels a bit more in vs the stock set up?

 

if they are the Camaro SS brakes/rotors, then the 17" Weld RT-S WILL fit

 

How are you going to fit a 17 inch rim and tire over a 14 inch rotor plus the caliper? Even better, the rear rotor is bigger than the front rotor at 14.5 inches. Is that car in the photo a true SS? The base model brakes, I can see 17s fitting, but def not the SS.
In my post I said 19s and up were pretty much mandatory... I was wrong. The fronts you can slide an 18 over it. That's about it tho. If you can show me a better shot of those wheels on that car, with Brembo brakes on it, then I will edit that post and apologize to you for tellin you you are wrong.

 

its Texas Speed's L99 SS the RT-S designed specifically for late model stuff (5th gens, 4th gens, mustangs, cobras, corvettes, etc)

 

Oh ok... I know for a fact TRADITIONAL 17 inch wheels will not bolt up. But these particular wheels were engineered to provide the necessary clearance of big brake setups. Is that correct?

 

yep. they dont break the bank either

to be clear, i know for a fact they clear the camaros brakes. i dont know if theyd clear the CTS-V 6 pistons (probably not)

 

I understand now. I apologize for telling you were wrong. That's intereting tho. Good thinkn too I might add. Makes it much easier to run a smaller wheel/tire combo at the track!

 

Bump! So these wouldn't clear a 18" wheel?

 

There are alot of guys on LS1tech running 18's with these brakes. As far as I know its not so much a case of the rotor and caliper not fitting inside the wheel but a case of the caliper hitting the spokes. From what I've read, you need to have 1.25" clearance from the caliper face to the inside of the wheel face if you're running stock f-body LS1 brakes. That will give you .25" clearance with the SS brakes. If anybody wants some measurements I may be able to get some dimensions this weekend.

 

they will. even certain 17" designs

 

The front spindles are getting cut/drilled out today for the fronts calipers. Has anyone come up with a floating caliper setup for the rear Brembo calipers for a IROC rearend that uses a 10 bolt C clip setup? I am ready to get this Camaro to the paint shop very soon.

 

I'm selling the rear conversion, I was going to do on mine, but could use the cash.

For sale on Ebay Motors - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270737090537

 

After checking with Mosser and all other aftermarket companies the can be no cure all for the C clip elimanator kits. The Mosser setup is for drag racing only and can't be used on road race tracks, because it can't take the side loads when going around a corner. Why would anyone make a C clip elimanator kit that can't be used on a road track?

Here in the Houston area a new road track opened up in the area. It is called MSR track in Angleton, Tx. Not far from Houston, it is a 2.38 mile track that can be setup with numerous layouts. I checked with the track officials and no C clip rear ends are premitted on the track. Same thing with the NHRA, if your car runs under 11 seconds in the 1/4 mile. If it does your 3rd gen Camaro must have the C clip elimanator kit installed that is only good on the drag strip.

I am looking into a Lincoln small 9" rear end that came in some cars in the late 70's and early 80's. I am wondering if any road race guys have done this swap yet? It would be interesting to see if you can retain the torque arm between the rear and transmission, which is very important on a 3rd gen car. Any information is greatly appreciated.

 

Piece of cake. Use a 9 bolt. Plenty strong for road racing.

 

Check the fabrication board and the drivetrain board. There are a few companies like strange engineering and moser who make both adaptor brackets and complete third members for torque arm cars such as ours.

 

Wonder how we can calculate the inner wheel space to clear the brembo'S?
If they are 14'' rotors, why they wouldn't clear a 17'' wheel? I know that some wider wheels could possibly accomodate the clearance issue...with that said, is anybody here is running this brake setup with smaller wheels like 17's 18's etc.?? Would like to fit them cause they are much stronger than our factory setup no DOUBT and they are much cheapier than the competitors package, BUT, if we have to change our wheels & tires then I wouldn't jump in this appealing deal...I still like my Ronal's lol

 

no pics of the front brake setup?

 

who is selling the adaptors for make the front calipers work?

 

flynbye.com he sells them

 

By the looks of it they will fit the 18" wheel

And if the rear brackets fit 9 bolts/1o bolts they must fit moser 12 bolt applications.

Now I'm thinking i have the ctsv v1 brembos up front and I am limited when it comes to wheels I can only use 18" wheels and bigger

but switching to 5th gen ss rear caliper set I will again be limited to use specific 17" wheels in drag or road course combos

 

Yeah they fit my 18s but i havent yet have bought the spindle to make sure but will within 2 weeks

Well i have heard that i think the rear rotors are even bigger then the front ones but im not sure.

 

Since 2010 Camaro Brakes are used could it be possible to also hook up an abs module from a 2010 Camaro? Is the ABS computer built in to the ecu or is it a separate unit?

Has anybody been able to hook up the ebrake on the rear brembos?

 

Quick question...if I have a C5 Z06 brake kit using Ed's FlynBye spindle/hub, all you need for a 5th gen SS setup is an adapter bracket?

 

Any updates?

 

Nuthin yet bro. I was hoping to get my brembos mounted up, but I'm outta cash to finish.

 

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/pts/2653851715.html

Willing to separate parts if interested.

 

Is this for 9 or 10 bolt?

 

The bracket I purchased is supposed to be for 9 bolt, however I don't see any difference in the pictures.

 

I think they are slightly different. Ed's pictures are probably the same though. I need them for the 9 bolt as well.

How much for just the brackets shipped to 98203?

 

It took me a few months to receive the machined parts as they are not readily in stock. I paid 85$ plus whatever the shipping cost was. They also include the bolts to mount up and a bunch of other parts pre-packaged. I can take a picture If wanted. I can do Ebay to make shure transaction goes well for 100$ shipped to your house.

Thanks,
Josh

 

Do you just need the brackets? Im looking to sell the lot, even just the brackets and calipers, as the rotors weight too much to ship out there. I would be willing to work out something reasonable.

 

I am just looking for the brackets. I am planning to modify them slightly for my particular application, so I don't really need the rest of the parts. PM a quote and pictures to me, I don't want to clog up this thread.

 

Pics of brembos on a third Gen?

 

Here he has them all around https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/whee...aro-5th-3.html

 

I've been looking for a while and can't even locate a set of SS calipers.

 

Anyone have the GM part # for the calipers? also anyone know if the ctsv calipers are ba k?

 

Not sure if anyone can answer this but I'm buying a set of 18x8 and 18x9 Torq Thrusts and want to put the 5th Gen Brembo's on as well. Would these wheels work with the brakes?

 

Looking @ a Quick Preformance Ford 9" rear end setup for the 85 Camaro. Has anybody used their product yet in a 3rd Gen. Camaro? I have the adjustable Sophn setup for the tourque arm and this setup accomadates this very nicely it looks like. Next problem will be getting the back Brembos mounted on to the Ford 9" axle. I will check into Fly and Byes back plates for the GM rear ends and see if it can be made to work with the Ford unit.

Will be getting the 35 spline axles with 4:11 gears to make the 85 come out of the hole with the T-56 transmission. Found a 2011 SS Camaro black leather seat package at a local boneyard and it looks like it will fit right into the 85 without much problem. Should be a great improvement when compared to the 85's stock seats.

 

five7kid had some problems with his Quick Performance torque arm setup. Take a look at this thread.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/orga...ms-qp-9-a.html

Regarding rear Brembos. I believe you when you order your differential you can specify which ends you want. You could get 10 bolt/12 bolt ends on the 9" and use an off the shelf bracket. Or you can run big Ford ends and then have a custom bracket made.

The next question is what is your plan for an e-brake? That seriously complicates the setup. There are no off the shelf brackets that I am aware of that retain the factory e-brake.

 

Thanks for your great post here 87350IROC concearning this rear end setup. After reading your post, I called Mike @ Quick Preformance. He informed me that the have made changes to their rear end design and have gotten rid of the old style Heim joints for the TA and have gone with a solid rod type of joint. This has cut down on the side to side motion in the TA setup. BMR just like Sophn use Heim joints in their adjustable TA setups. Too much slop caused by 2 Heim joints that close together, at the TA/rear end mounting pad is never a good thing, IMO.

I will go with the big ends in the Ford 9" and will have to get a custom made bracket to mount the Brembos in the rear. IMO better to keep the larger sized ends then go with the GM guys. E brake is always a PITA in these conversions so it is now time to cross this bridge and see if it can be done. Thanks again 87350IROC for your post.

 

I am in the midst of installing 2009+ CTS-V rotors and calipers on my Dana 44 and am keeping the e-brake. They are the same calipers and rotors as the 2010+ SS. Check out this thread for some more ideas.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...s-v-brake.html

John

 

Thanks John for all of the information. About time GM started making World Class cars again, with the CTS-V, Z-06 and Camaro SS cars. Since GM doesn't change it's parts platform too much lots of these newer upgrades can be added to GM's earlier models of cars such as in the Camaro's case. Looking forward to reading your post about the CTS-V brakes John.

 

Some very nice work on that thread John, I like the modeling software you used, for testing the strength of your caliper bracket. I haven't found anything on putting the Brembos on a Ford 9" rear end as of yet. Nothing on most of the Ford 9" rear end builder's web sites, always hate to be on the bleeding edge of technology, so to speak.

After reading your thread John, the 1 piece bracket that wraps around the entire housing looks like the way to go for my application. That should take care of any flexing problem with the bracket and make it super strong. I have access to a few good machine shops here in the Houston area to make the bracket up once it is designed up. If you happen to need some bracket design side work there John, I just happen to know of a project............... Thanks again for sharing your expertise with the Forum and myself.

 

Sounds like a fun project. I always like doing this kind of stuff.

Are your ends the "New" Big Ford Style as seen in the picture below?

Do you know what bearings are used in the Big Ford? They must be giant considering the size of that center hole.

I'm busy the next couple of days, but should be able to try this out the end of the week / weekend.

I would also need to know the offset from the axle housing flange to the axle rotor mounting surface.

 

Thanks John for the help. I will be on the phone with Quick Preformance today to hash out all of the particuliars of the Ford 9" rear end setup, including the off set measurement for the caliper bracket. The Ford 9" has been thru several design changes with the axle bearings and seal combinations. I have to make sure what bearing/seal comes in this setup. I am very sure the 35 spline axles will have the O ring type of seal for the axle bearing seal. I will shoot you the information once I have it in my hands John. Thanks again John for your time/help for helping me move this project forward.

 

I did some goofing around last night and came up with a concept for the bracket. The 4 flange holes and the big center hole are correct but the rest of the flange shape/size is just a guess on my part. I would need more accurate dimension. Also the thicknesses are a guess as well.

The big Ford flange is indeed big. It required moving some stuff around. I had to rotate the whole dust shield / e-brake mount about 20 degrees clockwise. Also the two upper dust shield mounting holes are "new". You would have to drill new holes in the dust shield to match. I had to do this with mine as well. The stock holes get in the way of the flange.