lol. its gonna need to b thick m8, very think depending on the weight of ur subs and u dont want it moving about. is it gonna b a bass reflex (ported) enclosure? cause then movement wont b as big an issue but if its non ported with will b so u ned some think stuff

 

10inch DVC Solobaric L5s-$200 or less
12inch DVC Solobaric L5s-$250 or less
Not to bad considering how they sound. I am thinking about the 15 inch Solobarics for my new box but I think I will have to pass if I still want that paint job this winter
greg

 

No shat? For that square on? Cool... Damn those maaudio Kore are about something serious.

5,000 Watts Rms
10,000 Watts Max
4" Bobbin Voice Coil Structure
Sensitivity: 87.3 dB @ 1w/1m
Frequency Response: 30 Hz-500 Hz

$2030.00
SALE $699.99

>something seems kinda odd though. Hmm... just cause I'm a good guy I'll cut off 1300 dollars. WHAT? something is wrong. No one is that generous.

 

nahh m8 there is something wrong there, they are seeling them at that price cause noone will buy them. u try n get an amp to power that thing n ull be crying. im telling u dont look at RMS and excusion, go with some good recomendations, i personaly think that those kicker ones look pish, what kinda music u into? we are definatly going with the JL's but its ur call, i know what the JL's can do punch and drone, but we are punch guys so we are going with a 10 and 2 8's i think. got a good price for a 10w6v2 so it might b one of them as it got an amazing write up by a proper audio mag in the UK. we arent going for a system that will win competitions cause we dont need it to, we are going for somthing the is awsome, sounds g8 and can do all kinds of music, we hope the car will get us featured and the ICE will just b a bonus and a prject to do.

subs depend on ur kinda music and what u want it for, subs that can shatter glass are gonna kill perspex and eat ur box for supper seems a good box though. but no point in killing it...

 

Hmm... Guess your right. There are different kinda subs for different kinds of music. Well I like loud rock! Real loud with Clear bass. But every now and then I like to pop in some Besty boys Beastie boys. You know that song Paul Revere where the pass is all backwards. I need my subs to crank for that and some Industrial rock that has some techno FX in the background. But mostly rock. What would my best bets be for that. My price range for each sub I'll go 150--200.



Hey dudes I need some help here. This bondo is going to take forever and it adds a load of weight. I dont think I need anymore glass cause the bondo is strong enough. Would there be any difference in sound by coating the inside with bodo oppose to leaving it with glass? Well I need a easier way to coat the inside and make it flat.This is going to take up space but I can alwayz add more to the top and just angle it down. But see the wooden beams they are are about 1/4th of an inch about the glass. Is there anything else besides bondo that is eaisier to work with?

 

personally i would have got some nice thin black carpet and spray adhesive and carpet the inside all nice and evenly black. where have u used the Bondo?

 

I used the bondo on the outside for now. There is about 7-8 LBS of it on there. I dont want to use to much cause its getting heavy. I probably wouldnt of had to use it I didnt use that fleece. Should of just stapled the mat and foil on the outside. Oh well live and learn. Carpet doesnt sound all that bad about now but I dont have any speakers so I'm in no hurry and will keep on sanding down the bondo. I just need some easier way to fill in the inside to make it kinda flat. Bondo is going to take alot of time and add weight. This is really not the point of fiberglass right? Well I dont know, how much does a wooden box this size weight?

 

lots! what u mean if u hadnt used the flece? if ur trying to get flat surfaces inside get some really thin plywood or hardboard, like 2 or 3 mm stuff and screw it onto ur box, cut off the screws at the other side and then glue carpet on, im getting gr8 ideas here how im gonna do our box

 

my 3/4" MDF box for 3 12's weighs in at like 57 pounds or something

 

Hey wake up man. Damn with the subs that probably weights alot. Well I remember with my wood box I could pull fishtails eaiser.

 

wake up? lol all the extra weight soo good 4 traction.

 

The fleece kinda make it wavy.

 

ahh ic, we had a wee problem about that when we did our parcel shelf for the KA but found if it was pulled taugh it was fine. how uneven is the box on the inside?

 

Not to rain on anyones parade, but Bass doesnt break glass. At all. If you broke a glass door with a sub, one of two things happened:

You THREW the sub through the glass door.

Or there was already a crack in it.

The ability to rattle a material with a sound wave depends on the sound wave being generated at the materials natural resonating frequency. For glass, it happens to be very high, thats why theres all those gay commericals about opera singers breaking yuppie wine glasses.

You can shatter already cracked glass with Bass just because the crack will rattle until it starts to break.

On the topic of Subs.....

The R drive 12's are very nice, and they sound very clean for the money. If the "R" logo is the issue, mount them inverted, that will increase the volume of your box by the displacement of the sub, and cover up the logo. Not to mention, i think inverted subs are nice looking.

MA audio subs are allright for heavy slamming, but a personally dont think theyre a great SQ sub. They sound a tad sloppy.

The kickers are great subs too, i used to have a bunch of their old ones. Square vs. Round....... Not even gonna go there, lol.

Good luck

 

maybeh it didnt break the glass maybeh it rattled the surrounds and caused it to fall out

2 much bass in ur car n ull pop out ur windows aswell and need to ge perspex ones. smashing :P i dont get this whole, round verses square....

 

LOL:sillylol: That would do it. Well Those type R speakers are 200 bucks a pair? Something just seems odd about that. Sure? Its probably 200 for one right?

 

man i whish i got american prices, ur all complaining n im crying :P

 

Well what happens when you order stuff over the net from here?

 

They can be had for 110 a piece. They sell them cheap because cost is cheap. cost on a 12 inch R drive 12 is 85 bucks......

<-- Buys Alpine @ cost

 

Here we go http://www.carmedia1.com/ There are the prices that I like to see. You know I will probably get these. do the specs look good? I have no clue what half this shat means. Could someone explain some of the good points in this list and why that it is a good thing?


Bumped Backplate
Compound Radius Curve Pole Geometry
Custom Cast Aluminum Frame
Integrated Heat Transfer Plate
Designed and Engineered in the USA
Dual Progressive Oversized Nomex® Spiders
Dual Stacked Magnets
Dual Voice Coil Design
Extra Length Extended Pole
Flared Pole Vent
Heavy Duty 8ga. Push Terminals
High Excursion 1" Santoprene Surround
High Strength Brass Voice Coil Bobbin
Integrated Tinsel Lead Design
Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Cone
Magnetically Optimized Motor Structure (Pat. Pend.)
Oversized Parabolic Dustcap
General-Subwoofers

Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
Magnetic Weight : 64oz.
Mounting Depth (top mount) : 152mm (6”)
Mounting Diameter (top mount) : 231mm (9-3/32”)
Recommended Box Types : Sealed/Vented/Bandpass
Recommended Sealed Box Volume : 0.55 – 0.8 cu. ft.
Spider Material : Nomex
Voice Coil Diameter : 50mm
Power Handling

Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1000W
Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 300W
Thiel Small Parameters

Coil Height (Hvc) : 36.7mm
Cone Area (Sd) : 320.47 sq. cm
D.C.Coil Resistance (Re) : 1.8 ohm + 1.8 ohm
Electrical Q (Qes) : 0.40
Equivalent Suspension Stiffness (Vas) : 29 liters(1.02cu.ft.)
Free Air Resonance (Fs) : 29Hz
Frequency Response : 28Hz - 1kHz
Gap Height (Hag) : 10mm
Impedance (Nominal) : 2ohm + 2ohm or 4ohm + 4ohm
Inductance (Le) : 2.67mH at 1kHz (0.88mH at 20kHz)
Linear Excursion (X linear) : 13.35mm
Maximum Excursion (X peak) : 26.7mm
Mechanical Excursion (Peak-to-Peak) : 55mm
Mechanical Q (Qms) : 8.93
Sensitivity : 85 dB/W/M
Total Loudspeaker Q (Qts) : 0.38


SWR-1041D/SWR1021D
Weight: 20.00 lbs

 

u sometimes get huge shipping fee's and taxes battered on when you get them over here

F00k thats cheap!!!! what bits u not get? they seem to b pretty good, dunno if they will win comps, but if u want them just 4 listening to then ur sorted esp. at the price!

 

my friend has type R 12 in a custom box in his grand prix GT, and it slams, its only being fed 200 RMS but its still loud, and the sound quality is not lacking at all, ALPINE is a winner in my book for these subs

 

I'm real close to deciding on these type Rs. I want LOUD bass when I want to hear it. I was just so damn disappointed with the two 10" cerwin hed speakers. Though a freind was being cool by getting me these. Now I know he is just a rip off pos. I really should have came here first where the people know their ****.

 

My buddy has two Type R 10s and he took them to the db drag yesterday and he has 150RMS to each speaker. He hit 132.6. When he gets the dual 2 ohm voice coil type r's he will have 300RMS to each and he'll get it tested again.

Brian

 

Damn thats loud I really think this is what I want.

>the latest on the box. I bought another gallon of resin. Now I'm just pouring the krap on the inside and letting it dry a smooth layer so that I dont have to sand or do anything that has to do with hard work for now. Take a look, its working out great. Except for the fact that its about 70 out side. Its not drying as quick as I like but its drying.

 

I dont think you want carpet on the inside, cause thats going to absorb some of the sound, and I know you dont want that.

I was thinking about it today, and instead of getting just a couple of highly efficient performance subs, why not get like 6 efficient and small rms subs for an impressive display in that huge box? You should be able to get more small rms subs at a lower price, right? And still maintain quality?

 

GEE, why not get 2 alpine type R 10's r 12's, both can be had for under a $100 each and they are proven to be GOOD

 

You mean like 2 of each? sweet! go for it!

 

BTW.... if you go with the R drive 12's, look at the MRD line of amps from alpine. They have the MRD-300 and the MRD-500.

Make sure you get the DVC 4 ohm ones. Then you can hook each sub up to their own amp at 2 ohms (stable). A friend of mine has 2 12's with the MRD-300's, 1 amp per sub. It sounds sweet. Ive heard the MRD-500's give a little more headroom, and a little more punch. Great amps, easy to set up together (the MRD-500's can even be daisychained), and dont draw to much power.

 

check out the JBL powervalve amps before the alpine ones, my friend is running his one 12 type R off of the alpine MRD-300 and it just doesnt give off enough power, espesially for the price!

 

well i meant like a 12" type R can be had for under a $100 as can the 10"s

 

hey everybody, I don't mean to try to do a sales post. but, I'm working on opening a car audio store, and I have connections to alot of dist. so if anybody wants someting let me know, I can usally get around 20%-30% depending on brand and what it is. PM or email me if you want more info

Josh

 

What about those type R's and an amp to power 300 RMS?

 

what price u get JL 10w6v2's at?

 

Hey man I can't get alpine because to be a legit dealer you have to have been in business at least 6 months. Alpine I cannot get.also JL will not allow more than one dealer in a city. and there already is one where I'm at, so I can't get them either. here is a quikc list of what I can

Pioneer
Panasonic
Kicker
Audiobahn
Infinity
Lightning audio capacitors
JVC
Dynamat

I'm workign on getting more, but it is just a hassle to work w/ HUGE companys like some of em. But that is what I can get for now.

Josh

 

ahh gutted :P oh well m8 hope it all goes well for u

 

Pioneer huh? Whats your favorite deck there?

 

Did you know if you put some resin and water in a cup then squirt a load of hardener in it, that would cause a big chemical reaction and foam a big mess everywhere? I have to try this but I dont want to waste all the hardener.

 

lol sounds gr8 fun lol

 

Sometimes when I play a song in my car that has 2 bass lines in it...like Justin Timberlakes song "Like I Love You", the sub seems to distort while trying to play both bass lines. When only one is present in the music, it sounds great, but it sounds a little..."wobbly" when the second line of bass comes in.

Is this normal? Should I tune the amp to filter out more bass frequencies? Would adding another sub make it easier for the two to make the sounds, therefore reducing this effect?

 

do both subs run off one amp? if they run off 2, get one to filter out bassline and the other to filter out bassline 2, ergo u get 2 subs doing 1 bassline each

 

Oh krap it just erased all that **** I typed in the reply. Well what kinda box and amp do you have? I would turn down the bass on the amp. If that doesnt work ask one of the pros here. I'm sure they would know.


Its cold out here so I'm using this heater to help dry the glass. This box is getting kinda heavy. I think I just might use it for a while and if slows my ride down I'm probably sell it to someone who doesnt care about speed. It will be good enough to enter comps and catch a few eyez. Cant wait to primer it though. All of this glassing, bondo laying and sanding **** is getting old. Time to finish that krap.

 

man it looks S**t hot! it wont slow u down much im sure, if it does make it removeable

 

Look out for bad hardener. The stuff I just got from home depot was kinda fuked up. The can was leaking from the top edges. One of them leaked all over the counter. He he.. thats going to be a nasty mess to clean up. With out the hardener its going to make that counter real sticky. Like a fly trap sticks. Well I opened it when I got home and the spout had all this dried up glass in it sealing the can. I had to take a screw driver and make a little hole. The hardener didnt work as well as the last stuff. Maybe cause it is 65 out here. But twice as much hardener and the heater worked just fine. I hear that hardener can go bad though. Anyone hear of this?

 

Hey your up early. Well early for me, 8:00am over here. What time do you have? If I didnt have to go to work I would be azzed the he!l out. Well no I need to wake up early to spend the dayz on this box.

 

im not well, i got a bugger of a cold so im off skool 2day and i got up nice n late, its 2 oclock now. im soo tempted to go n start putting on the bodykit for me bro's car but mum would go mad at meh cause im mean to b ill. ahh well....

 

Ha! do it anyway. Tell her you feel alot beter and need something to do. Well you would have to go to school the next day. Could be worst....Might have to go to a job like mine. AHHH !!!!

 

lol. i might go out n take off the door pod and work out wats up with it but its pishing it with rain outside so i might not

 

Where ya @ ¿ Its been raining here in Dallas, Texas for about 4 dayz. Good fishtailing weather though. This isnt making it easy for me to build a fiberglass box. That and work keeps getting in the way. Heh.. cant skip here or they will throw me out the door. Well @ least I have the next day off. Maybe I can get all the bondo and smoothing out done by then.

 

im on good old rainy scotland n its about 6 deg. Celcius outside and soaking wet. i spose i could start smoothing out the number plates recess on the body kit... hmm...

im dying to start making a fiberglass box aswell. got some ideas lined up