Crazed-79-Z28

Anyone have the Kenwood KGC-9044 11-Band Equalizer
i was just wondering if anyone that has it if they like it and how hard is it to use, almost all my stereo equip. is kenwood excelon, also does anyone have any of thier subs, are they any good or junk?

1986z28

iTrader: (2)

i havent used it but kenwood is pretty good for that sort of thing. I had a 300 watt kenwood amp and it kep up with my rockford 500.2 that cost over twice as much so im a kennwod fan.

SlowMaro

hard to use eq? heh, should be used to equalize the sound as to how you like it to be played, cant be that hard, as far as kenwood subs and amps, thumbs down, ...go for rockford, kicker, jl, bostwick...somthing to that nature....amps that claim to put out the same amount of power but cost cheaper tend to be of less sound quality and have LESS wattage, ...just has more distortion

1986z28

iTrader: (2)

I agree with you on the subs but i really do think they make nice amps. I bought both the rockford 500.2 (250 watts at 4 ohms) ahd the kenwood 600 watt (300 watts at 4 ohms) And the kenwoork sounded much better and cost 300 less. I Think the sound quality was equal and for the money i would go with kenwood again.

SlowMaro

i just know the internal circuitry isnt as good as competition amps, ...i mean , you get what you pay for with electronics, as well as most other things, ....i.e. if you run a low impedance level ona cheap amp , you got an expensive paper weight, ...just depends on what you wanna use it for, ...dont try to push 1 ohm on that kenwood heheh

Crazed-79-Z28

i have 2 kenwood amps, and out of my friends RF amp 800@4 and kicker amps, the kenwood i think sounds the best and heats up the least of them all, im not trashing either cause i love the sounds of RF subs and kicker is good alround, but most of everything i own is already kenwood excelon or kenwood, i just want to know if the subs are any good to complete my set, or if they would just be a waste, i see that the kenwood subs say they can go pretty low compared to the RF subs ive had.

SlowMaro

shop around and compare, ..look at the specs, make a wise buy

Crazed-79-Z28

thats why im trying to ask around, i see that the 12" kenwoods KFC-XW1225dB 12" Dual Voice Coil Woofer Resonant Frequency (Fs): 24Hz

the RF HX2 and this is a 15" is dual voice coil has a Fs of Fs - 24
also, so which will i get more out of, they are both rated at 600watts RMS

KicKeR

IMO you will get more out of the 12, can hit almost just as low as the 15 and can plays mids alot better. Kenwood subs are not SPL quality, but there SQ isn't bad at all.

Crazed-79-Z28

whats the diff between SPL, an SQ, i know what SQ is or at least i think i do, its the sound quality that the speaker produces, the better SQ the less distortion, but what is SPL?

KicKeR

SPL is Sound Pressure Level

- How much air your subwoofer moves

and yes, SQ is Sound Quality

SlowMaro

spl is basicly how hard the speaker will hit, ...seeing as how you are going for a sub woofer, ...sound quality isnt an issue, distortion is. you dont want distortion...distortion = fried voice coils and a speaker seized to the magnent. people tend to see how far they can push the subs abilities, id go for an actual competition sub if i were you, you get more out of it in the long run, once again....you get what you pay for. Especially in car audio. are you pushing one 12 or two?? 15's usually hit low frequencys and lack mid bass unless you put them in a bow with liek .90 cubic feet of air space. .....telll us what you want, and we can tell you what you need. for the best bang for your buck id go for the kicker vr-12's DVC <dual voice coil> and run them in series. bridge them to a good 400 watt amp and you got a pretty nice setup.

Crazed-79-Z28

Im looking for something that when im coming around the block u can feel me before u see me when im playing the really low rap kinda bass, but when ur in the car playing heavy metal i want u to feel the thump on ur heart, im not goin to competition or anything but i want a very above average clean system.

SlowMaro

id say 2 12's . jl bostwick kicker all make good high end subs, ...make sure you get a good clean amp though or it wont hit for crap, ....and if you buy one piece of equipment at a time, have a plan on EVERYTHING you want by the end, ....you dont wanna end up getting a low quality amp and paying 200 bucks to learn a lesson. go for at the least a 400 watt amp. anything less is unworthy, the whole thing should run you around 700 bucks , box included..

Crazed-79-Z28

i have 2 amps, they are kenwood excelon of 2001 i think its the one with the sliding door on it, one of them push 600wattsx1@2ohms(RMS) other is 300wattsx2@2ohm or 4ohm i cant remember the 300watt amp is a 4 channel amp, from what i have heard both of them push, they produce good SQ.

SlowMaro

i say put that 600 watt on your subs and run your mids and highs off the 300 watt amp, get a nice cross over and a good eq and you will have excellent sound quality

Crazed-79-Z28

what will the cross over do for me that a EQ wont, here is the EQ i have, http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...&productId=457, plus i have some options on my deck but its an older kenwood excelon mask, what would i gain from a crossover? if ur not too busy which would u suggest from the kenwood/excelon line?

SlowMaro

cross over will give you control of the power comming from the amps its kinda like a pre Eq, Equalizer i guess, ....plus you can use a cross over to hook up 2 amps if you only have one set of pre outs going to an amp, thought you could use Y splitters. either way its your call, was just a suggestion

Crazed-79-Z28

i would be using the 600 watt amp for the subs to use a single clean signal, and then use the 300 for mids and highs, im just strung on what sub choice i should go for. i hear the RF HX2's hit nice especially the 10s for the heavy metal type bass i already have a RF 15 which hits low and im pretty happy for the low end bass in most of my rap, but before buying 2 10s im wondering how the 2-12kenwood subs will sound they have the full range of both the 10 and 15 RF has, but im wonder which would better me for the sound im wanting. i dont want to have some dealer just tell me what he thinks i want to hear.

SlowMaro

you might want to just get another 15 if you can, same ohm level same type of speaker, ...when you start putting weird numbers of speakers in your car like sets of 1 or 3 or 5 it tends to throw in a weird impedance unless you wave jl 3 ohm or 6 ohms, ... either get another 15, or sell it and get 2 12's , ...12's hit low to mid bass well, ....and are better for all around like you are wanting to use it for

KicKeR

I agree with SlowMaro, potentially mixing sizes is bad. NEVER mix brands, that will totally screw up your sound.

Crazed-79-Z28

i would be putting the 2 - 10's on one amp and the 15 on a seperate amp so i dont think the odd ohms will have a play in that, but i do realize i will need another amp.

SlowMaro

itll be cheaper getting 2 12's and selling the 15 than buying 2 10s AND another amp. remember , keep it simple as possible

Crazed-79-Z28

im not too worried about the money, im just wondering which will sound better, sorry if ur tired of trying to explain this to me, i have a thick skull.

KicKeR

Basically -

Don't mix sizes or Kinds...

Crazed-79-Z28

ok gotcha