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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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4th gen radio conversion to 3rd gen

Just curious guys..Anyone know if a 99 f body monsoon cd stereo can fit a third gen..mine is a 91..Im not a radio expert but im thinking it will work..Any info will help guys..thanks
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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why wouldn't it fit?
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Curious about the mounting and actuall wiring harness
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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question: why? just put a cd player in unless your going for that complete 4th gen interior thing with no aftermarket stuff like for instance... a cd player... i'm sure the wire colors arn't the same but if you play around with it, you'll figure it out i mean power is red, ground is black, memory is yellow so don't well you get the picture mix red and black makes things spark...
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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because i happen to have the cd player and speakers out of a 99
.by no means am i trying to update my whole interior to 4th gen..but i still have the stock delco in my 91 and wouldnt mind putting the newer stuff in..i just wanted to know if the mounting is the same and as far as the hookups go im sure i can figure those out
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by 11SEC91Z
because i happen to have the cd player and speakers out of a 99
.by no means am i trying to update my whole interior to 4th gen..but i still have the stock delco in my 91 and wouldnt mind putting the newer stuff in..i just wanted to know if the mounting is the same and as far as the hookups go im sure i can figure those out
All the Mounting is the same.

It might be a little bit of a tight squeeze, but other than that, and the re-wiring it will go right in....
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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it would work, however you will have to rewire it to work. if you have knowledge of that it should be no problem. that and you will need a code to unlock it probably..........with a slight modification to squeeze her in why not?

it's worth a shot. most stock decks are better sounding then many aftermarket units now days so i would try it.

also, 11SEC91Z i sent you an email.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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I don't think any sound will go to the speakers due to not having the amps that go to all the speakers....in the monsoon system, every speaker has its own little amp, and i don't know if it will work without them.
i could be wrong, but its worth a try
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Yea ive heard that too..but im fortunate enough to have all the speakers also..thanks for the info..
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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it's worth a shot. most stock decks are better sounding then many aftermarket units now days so i would try it.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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i wouldn't waste the money and just buy some aftermarket stuff...it'll sound better. The monsoon's are ok production stuff, but aftermarket blows it away.

- Andy
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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actually just plugging in a 4th gen radio isnt as simple as it seems, yes theres an external amp, and no its not with every speaker. I have a 2001 Camaro with the monsoon system....there is the main power amp located right in front of where the spare tire is mounted, its a black rectangular box, without it, im almost positive the system wont work correctly. Youd be amazed at how much bass and quality sound those i think 8 speakers (i've found 6 so far) put out. I re-did my entire system so i'm not using any of the stock wiring anymore, (main part of the system is still intact though so i can throw my stock HU in at any time) From an amp in the rear of the car, i ran new speaker wires to new JL speakers...and as far as this so-called theft lock....ive never ran into it with my car, i'd pull my radio out for days weeks and even months at a time, and when i put it back it, it would work fine, ive had batteries disconnected and all, never had an issue with it....But if you wanna do the monsoon system swap, i'd say u need that amp in the back.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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thanks for the reply..all info is appreciated..did you run into any funky wiring problems..thats my only concern..i have a monsoon system in my car also..ive never seen a amp bye the spare tire just the factory alarm theft shock sensor..looks very similar to what you are describing..but i can take that too if i need it..
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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here mine crappy res but u get the point

edit: oops forgot picture
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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Yea thanks for the reply..I already have installed mine..I was very to surprised to see it was basically a direct bolt in..86Iroc linked me to a thread on SE TGO that helped alot also..thanks guys
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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the newer Delco radios are very good radios. Their sound quality is just as good as anything available from the aftermarket, and they don't look so stupid. If you're building a system on a budget, grabbing a newer Delco radio is a great idea. What makes or breaks an install with that deck is the quality of your line output converter. With a good one from www.davidnavone.com you'll get sound quality that's just as good as you'll get with an aftermarket deck.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
the newer Delco radios are very good radios. Their sound quality is just as good as anything available from the aftermarket, and they don't look so stupid. If you're building a system on a budget, grabbing a newer Delco radio is a great idea. What makes or breaks an install with that deck is the quality of your line output converter. With a good one from www.davidnavone.com you'll get sound quality that's just as good as you'll get with an aftermarket deck.
Jim's right.
The new Delc arn't too bad.

Did you happen to get your new deck Yet????
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Mine? Yeah. I got it from crutchfield and it came in early last week. Maybe someday before the warranty is up I'll actually get it installed and powered up.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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the monsoon deck will work without the amp...i've been using mine for the last year. i just bought the factory monsoon amp off ebay last week and am going to hook up the amp tomorrow. i wonder where a good place is to put the monsoon amp?
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Anyone know where the monsoon amp is located in a 4th gen..I thought it was a self amped deck?Mine is in and working fine..But i have a 4th gen im taking all the parts out of..If theres a amp i want it also..thanks
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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it should be by the right rear wheel. (inside of course!)
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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the monsoon deck will work without the amp...i've been using mine for the last year. i just bought the factory monsoon amp off ebay last week and am going to hook up the amp tomorrow. i wonder where a good place is to put the monsoon amp?
I just located a monsoon stereo out of a 2002 WS6. I just have the head unit. I also want to put this in my third gen, 89GTA. Last night I measured both units and it seems it will fit in my console. The monsoon is a bit deeper, but not by much. When I pulled out my old tape unit and compared the connections to the monsoon, I found out that the steering wheel controls connections fit perfectly in the monsoon as does the antenna(sp). However, the power connection is not the same. I currently have two wires, one black and one orange/red that goes into a small 5 pin connector that utilizes only the first and the last slots. the deck has two pins in the same position as where the wires are connected to that mate with each other.

the monsoon head unit has like 6 or 7 pins. How did you overcome this power issue? Did you have to purchase another pin connector/adaptor? How many wires are needed to supply power to the monsoon stereo? What pins are used on the monsoon? any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
the newer Delco radios are very good radios. Their sound quality is just as good as anything available from the aftermarket, and they don't look so stupid. If you're building a system on a budget, grabbing a newer Delco radio is a great idea. What makes or breaks an install with that deck is the quality of your line output converter. With a good one from www.davidnavone.com you'll get sound quality that's just as good as you'll get with an aftermarket deck.
Heh sorry I never saw these responses, I know they're old.

I had my doubts at first but now owning a fourth-gen with a newer Delco radio I can say that for a factory setup it sounds amazing. (Though mine needs replaced because it refuses to play CDs... ) I was wondering if you had any specific recommendations for line output converters. I had my eye on this one: http://www.davidnavone.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=N-7V . That would save me some money and also probably be a theft deterrent since it would look like just another factory radio... not that I've ever been one to do stealth installs.

My only problem with doing it this way is that I was going to get an aftermarket deck with inputs so that I could set up my in-car PC system. I'd rather not use an FM modulator if I don't have to... I would think I'd lose quality.
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Re: 4th gen radio conversion to 3rd gen

i know how to un-lock the monsoon radios if any one needs help
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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Re: 4th gen radio conversion to 3rd gen

I just bought a CD player from a 99' Grand Prix (non Monsoon) and intend to put in my 88' GTA. Will it fit? Do I need to order the harness for the 99' deck? And the antenna adapter as well? Will the steering wheel controls work? Sorry if this has been covered, but I read so much information and no solid answer regarding an 88' stereo.
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Originally Posted by RockShowTrader
I just bought a CD player from a 99' Grand Prix (non Monsoon) and intend to put in my 88' GTA. Will it fit? Do I need to order the harness for the 99' deck? And the antenna adapter as well? Will the steering wheel controls work? Sorry if this has been covered, but I read so much information and no solid answer regarding an 88' stereo.
I put a radio out of a 2000 Grand Am into a 1988 GTA with no adapter and no trouble. The plugs matched, and it works, even the power antenna. Had to whittle the front part of the mount just a wee bit to get it to fit. Steering wheel radio controls do not work however.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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That's great news eseibel67, thanks for the info. That steering wheel is kind of ugly anyway, now I have good reason to change it to the one without the radio controls. Thanks again
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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I would suggest the one-year only, 1987 GTA wheel. It's leather, it feels great, it's got the GTA logo with a little golden bird, and it's beautiful:


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Damn that IS nice. Will be a miracle finding one.
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