Check out my completed system
Check out my completed system
I designed and made this box over spring break. I took forever , I don't like it ghetto style. I didn't have acess to any power saws. It came out awsome, totally airtight. I used alot of liquid nails and caucked the inside. It's 3/4" MDF It rests ontop of the two sills. I got vinal to cover it. It cost me around 40$ for everything including terminals. These subs are so awsome though, they sound amazing. I had everything installed professionally. I have no clue on that kind of thing. I still havn't had buzzing problems except for the liscence plate, but I can't hear that inside...so who cares. I'm not a car audio expert, but I am a music nut, being a muscian in all. These sound SO AWSOME. The installers weren't familliar with volfenhag, nut were impressed by the quailty of the parts and of the sound. I love the rummble in my kiddneys from the back of the seat. If' you can't Feel the music, then your stereo isn't loun enough. OK here's the run down
Rockford fossgate RFX 9300 head..plays MP3's
Alpine 4X6's in dash stock locations
Infinity 6X9 in side panel stock locations
and the subs are in my sig. I turn the amp power up to about 40% and and can't handell anything louder then 20 out of 35 volume. I got amp and subs both for under 300$ These are the best sounding sub setup I have ever heard, I encourage anyone to get them
Rockford fossgate RFX 9300 head..plays MP3's
Alpine 4X6's in dash stock locations
Infinity 6X9 in side panel stock locations
and the subs are in my sig. I turn the amp power up to about 40% and and can't handell anything louder then 20 out of 35 volume. I got amp and subs both for under 300$ These are the best sounding sub setup I have ever heard, I encourage anyone to get them
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That's an awesome, unique install! I'd rather do my own personally but still looks good.
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By the way, you say you're a musician, what do you do? I make electronic (techno, trance) music.
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Woohoo, Volfenhag's
We will take the planet.
Yet another Volfenhag Head.....
We will take the planet.
Yet another Volfenhag Head.....
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Woohoo, Volfenhag's
We will take the planet.
Yet another Volfenhag Head.....
Woohoo, Volfenhag's
We will take the planet.
Yet another Volfenhag Head.....
The RFX 9300 is a pretty good unit. I got it open box for 300$ w/o the remote but I think it sells for 500 new. It has loads of power, I could get some kick out of my 6X9's. I'm a big fan of it, I don't need an amp for my highs and mids. The MP3 features are cool too, it has some cool radio features too, I recomend it.
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Nobody is saying that you need $1000 speakers to have good sound. There are many bargains to be had out there. I just don't believe those Volfhags are one of them.
If you listen to a system that has higher quality equipment that is installed properly, you will immediately find a huge difference in sound.
I also think that your system will sound much different in a few months than it does now. I've found that with cheap subs, their cheap materials fatigue very quickly. The problem is, because it's a gradual change, the user doesn't usually notice the transformation until he listens to somebody elses car.
I hate to say it, but I'd take Sony Xplod subs over those any day.
Oh... the reason that you're finding differences in sound quality with the amp warm vs. cold is another indication of the quality. The amp is made with terribly-cheap components, which are build to much looser tolerances than the higher quality stuff. As a result, it's not at all uncommon for equipment to vary based on its temperature. As the components warm up, their operating parameters change, and come closer to their specified parameters, so the amp works more as intended.
I'm not at all trying to be critical of your equipment, but you are new to car audio and unfortunately, you've falllen into the same trap that most of us have. I started out the same way.
If you listen to a system that has higher quality equipment that is installed properly, you will immediately find a huge difference in sound.
I also think that your system will sound much different in a few months than it does now. I've found that with cheap subs, their cheap materials fatigue very quickly. The problem is, because it's a gradual change, the user doesn't usually notice the transformation until he listens to somebody elses car.
I hate to say it, but I'd take Sony Xplod subs over those any day.
Oh... the reason that you're finding differences in sound quality with the amp warm vs. cold is another indication of the quality. The amp is made with terribly-cheap components, which are build to much looser tolerances than the higher quality stuff. As a result, it's not at all uncommon for equipment to vary based on its temperature. As the components warm up, their operating parameters change, and come closer to their specified parameters, so the amp works more as intended.
I'm not at all trying to be critical of your equipment, but you are new to car audio and unfortunately, you've falllen into the same trap that most of us have. I started out the same way.
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Volfenhag head here....
nice setup man.....same as i got plus a rockford cap......haha, yeah when i stand outside my camaro my license plate rattles to ****....its kinda funny though
nice setup man.....same as i got plus a rockford cap......haha, yeah when i stand outside my camaro my license plate rattles to ****....its kinda funny though
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i agree with jim on this one. i have 2 12" Kicker comp vrs powered by a 450w fosgate amp fed by a pioneer premier head unit. i can only go about 15 or so out of 40 on my volume. obviously its not quite the same but you get the idea.
although i do think your setup LOOKS nice, i dont think its as good as it could be for the price you paid. but you are new to this so what you have should probably suit you just fine. at least for now.
although i do think your setup LOOKS nice, i dont think its as good as it could be for the price you paid. but you are new to this so what you have should probably suit you just fine. at least for now.
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so what about us guys who havent even begun to dive into the whole car audio scene? assuming that you cant go and listen every combination of possible setups, how can you know if a system would be good or not? thats the problem i'm facing...not too many people have a wide variety of setups around here, and even so...most had their stuff put in by pro's, so they cant tell me what exactly they have. i've been trying to take advice from you guys out of oppinions etc...but theres always a small group of people who are against everything.
i'm the kind of guy who researches the crap out of whatever i buy so i KNOW i have to be very patient with this, considering there is a wide variety of components out there and several different pieces that make up a complete car audio system. and even after extensive research, trial and error is still a huge part of learing whats good and what isnt.
sometimes its good to start out cheap. cuz deep inside, i know ill learn so much out of the cheaper system that my next one will be twice as good. and same thing with the next one after that..
blah, im just rambling here...im not even gunna dive into sound systems until summer vacation. right now i need to get some other things done with my car
i'm the kind of guy who researches the crap out of whatever i buy so i KNOW i have to be very patient with this, considering there is a wide variety of components out there and several different pieces that make up a complete car audio system. and even after extensive research, trial and error is still a huge part of learing whats good and what isnt.
sometimes its good to start out cheap. cuz deep inside, i know ill learn so much out of the cheaper system that my next one will be twice as good. and same thing with the next one after that..
blah, im just rambling here...im not even gunna dive into sound systems until summer vacation. right now i need to get some other things done with my car
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I think that looks really nice. Totally trick and custom. I can't say that the Volfenhag subs are no good but it seems like cheap subs are all the same. They are good at the time of purchase and you can't believe how good they sound for what you paid for them then you hear someone elses system and wonder wtf you were thinking. It's the worst feeling in the world,I know. Thinking that if you would've waited a llittle longer you could've had something else and you have to start over.
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Originally posted by FyreLance
By the way, you say you're a musician, what do you do? I make electronic (techno, trance) music.
By the way, you say you're a musician, what do you do? I make electronic (techno, trance) music.
Originally posted by Trans_AM_88
so what about us guys who havent even begun to dive into the whole car audio scene? assuming that you cant go and listen every combination of possible setups, how can you know if a system would be good or not? thats the problem i'm facing...not too many people have a wide variety of setups around here, and even so...most had their stuff put in by pro's, so they cant tell me what exactly they have. i've been trying to take advice from you guys out of oppinions etc...but theres always a small group of people who are against everything.
so what about us guys who havent even begun to dive into the whole car audio scene? assuming that you cant go and listen every combination of possible setups, how can you know if a system would be good or not? thats the problem i'm facing...not too many people have a wide variety of setups around here, and even so...most had their stuff put in by pro's, so they cant tell me what exactly they have. i've been trying to take advice from you guys out of oppinions etc...but theres always a small group of people who are against everything.
Like Ford Mustangs for example. I see some I like but overall not a real fan of them. If somebody was looking for a fast car that is fun to drive it 'may' fullfill their needs and it maybe won't.
You stick to some of the major brands you probably won't go wrong. Like Rockford Fosgate, Alpine, Focal (Nice component speakers, some of the poly-kevlars are a great bang for the buck), Phoenix Gold (great amps), JL Audio and so on and so forth. You will find people that may not prefer some of those brands and/or prefer some of the stuff they make like Phoenix Gold speakers for example, haven't heard to may good things about them but if you got like a Phoenix Gold amp most people would know it to be good.
Hope that makes sense. Getting ready to walk out the door here for I'm done with work! :-)
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I can't see putting a $1000 system in a $3000 car....But maybe its because I have a $300 system in a $200 car... But my $300 system will KILL alot of $1000 systems in a hearbeat....YAY for used stuff.... Two Rockford Punch XLC 12s in a sealed box and a 1400 watt amp and nice deck do just fine for me! Especially when I spent $300 on it
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just wondering, but what kind of amp is it that you have that is "1400" watts, and im wondering if you replaced the alternator to be able to use that amp, if it was really 1400 watts, you would need an extra 116 amps in addition to what your current alternator is rated at so i'd say youd need about a 200 amp alternator.i highly doubt that your $300 system could beat my 600 dollar system 3 JL audio 10w0s powered by a jbl 600.1 and i have a 150 amp High output alternator. hehe, and by the way, if your happy with your volfenhag stuff, thats great, go right ahead and buy it, but like i always say, you get what you pay for and if you dont for out the dough, you get bad quality, volfenhag is about the same as koiller, boss, sony, pyramid, and legacy, just dont waste ur time unless your never gonna turn the system on, ur just gonna look at it.
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My amp is a legacy....I wouldn't trust much else from them, But have seen nothing but Sucess from their amps...I have a 150 alternator and all new wiring up front with a capacitor inline for those hard hits. I had a friend at Circuit city test my amp to see what it pushed out and it really did push 1400...Everyone is always dissing stuff from Legacy and Pyramid, If it works and works well Then I see no problem!...
Oh and by the way what dB is your $600 system pushing?
Oh and by the way what dB is your $600 system pushing?
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Originally posted by SLOWFIVEOH
My amp is a legacy....I wouldn't trust much else from them, But have seen nothing but Sucess from their amps...I have a 150 alternator and all new wiring up front with a capacitor inline for those hard hits. I had a friend at Circuit city test my amp to see what it pushed out and it really did push 1400...Everyone is always dissing stuff from Legacy and Pyramid, If it works and works well Then I see no problem!...
Oh and by the way what dB is your $600 system pushing?
My amp is a legacy....I wouldn't trust much else from them, But have seen nothing but Sucess from their amps...I have a 150 alternator and all new wiring up front with a capacitor inline for those hard hits. I had a friend at Circuit city test my amp to see what it pushed out and it really did push 1400...Everyone is always dissing stuff from Legacy and Pyramid, If it works and works well Then I see no problem!...
Oh and by the way what dB is your $600 system pushing?
Then I heard their cars and realized that not only did their 40 watt amps sound better, they got WAY louder. Live and learn.
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Well, same situation as with subs. "works well" is open to interpretation. I had that type of equipment when I was in high school and thought it was great. I couldn't understand why all those clowns payed just as much as I did for their "40 watt" amps.
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