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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Put an end to thieves....

Ok we all know alarms dont do much, so heres what I want to do.
Car gets broken into, and flames shot up from the rockers both sides,
and inside the car incase they get in and attempt to drive away, a couple of high power bulbs to blind the perp
and maybe some mace sprayed thru out the interior.
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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yeah, shoot flames through the interior. burn down the car so noone can steal it.

just get an alarm and bullet proof glass

Old Jul 19, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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Hey I like the idea of the blinding light!
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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They actually have security systems that shoot flames in europe but because the crook could sue the person who's car he is stealing they are illegal in america.
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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They actually have security systems that shoot flames in europe but because the crook could sue the person who's car he is stealing they are illegal in america.
yea i sware officer i was just trying to break the glass becuase i wanted to see if the interior was as clean as it looked and the car just burned me.......
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Yeah it sucks that they can actually sue you for gettin hurt while breaking into your own car. Crazy
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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south africa is the only place i know of that has those.

what you could do is use 5 or 6 horn tweeters, mounted in the cabin of the car, set on a shock sensor, so that it gave a 30 second burst of 150db 10,000khz note, that would SHRED someones ears, were they to break in.

perfectly legal, im quite sure.


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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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That would be awsome just dont have to have a batery swiched or not be able to find the off switch/ remote that would be bad
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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...so that it gave a 30 second burst of 150db 10,000khz note...
thats a great idea, except they wouldnt be able to hear it. the human ear can only hear sounds up to 20 kHz. a dog wouldnt even be able to hear 10,000 kHz. 10,000 Hz would be good though.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 01:58 AM
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thanks for the correction, what i MEANT to post was 10,000hz (or 10khz)

even cynical jackasses make mistakes.



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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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onebadwagon has it. We did this in a friend’s car. We used 6 147db sirens and had them and simple shock sensor self powered from a 6Ah gel-cell battery hidden in the door panel. The sirens rang at about 13kHz. Once a year you had to charge the battery. There where pig tails that where just inside one corner so he didn’t have to pull the battery out. I would have rather used a battery isolator but he wouldn’t put out the money. We had two under the dash pointed at the center of the car. Then two in the hatch pointed at the center of the car, to cover the subs and amp. Then the last to we put by the back seat for good measure. The first time we tested it I was shocked. It just plane hurt to be in that car. If the trunk was open the interior sirens where louder then the under hood siren. The sirens would go for about 14 hours without a charge. Of course less if the battery had been setting for six months. And like a said, it hurt to be in that car with that going off.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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Nice thas what I like to hear, now throw in some spikes shooting out of the a/c vents and that would be perfect
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Just have a tube shoot out some deadly gas that will kill them instantly lol. Then they couldn't sue you, just dump the body somewhere, lol.
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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I want to do the siren thing, but I also want to hide blinding strobe-lights in the interior, under the hood, and in the trunk. Since most thefts happen at night, they would be completely blinded and wouldn't be able to disconnect my alarm or lights or steal any of my stuff.
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Is there any danger of breaking the glass in my car if I do this high-pitched siren thing?
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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FyreLance I LIKE the strobe idea. And about the glass, NO.
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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yeah, you WONT break the glass in your car.

it can happen, but the likelyhood that the combination of tweeters/sirens that you have will produce the required frequency, at the correct volume is about 1 in 40439849844848949849849840238-2835


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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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where can these sirens be found, and were they hooked to a car alarm, or just to the door switches?
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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lol, yea, this is awesome and all, I need a telsa coil in my back seat attached to sensors so when someone broke a window the telsa would be activated and viola! Human Lightning Rod.

But realistically, what happens one night when you forget [even if you just did the lights thing]. You walk out to your car and are accidentally blinded for life, or fall to the ground with epilleptic seizures. LOL

yea, we've all got some cynical *ss in us
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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To tell you thr truth I would certainly hook up one lead of the ac 110 the the car body/frame, and one to a 12'x12' extruded metal base. IF it were legal, but the guy in the post right above me /\ hit the nail o the head, I would forget it just once, and thats all that it would take, "fried lykan anyone?" I am not too worried about my neighbors cats (damned footprints) but my border collie would surely get cooked as well. heheh

Maybe just TASZER voltage I would be down for that
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by stupid4901
They actually have security systems that shoot flames in europe but because the crook could sue the person who's car he is stealing they are illegal in america.
are you sure? i mean i live in texas i know we can shoot someone if they are on our property
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Get one of the alarms that page you, and keep your 44 handy.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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I made a post such as this awhile back "good antitheft ideas" or something like that. Many members chipped in and we soon had some valuable tech info, including the link to the bullet proof glass people.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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all ya gotta do is get those halon systems, ive seen one in the engine compartment of a car. What halon does is take the oxygen out of the air. There used in buildings with alot of computers so they use that instead of spraying water on all the equipment, just like in the movie Terminator 2. Just make some tubes that fill the car with halon so it will choke the bastards out.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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oh yeah, its used as a fire alarm to put out fires, just incase someone missed the whole water and halon thing...
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Do what I did... get a kick ***.... TAPE DECK!! yes, i bought a tape deck (Kenwood), but its great, 'cause no one will steal a tape deck, lol, and will have a hidden CD changer hooked up
Old Aug 20, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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How about you wire some sort of speakers or something that emit a brown note/tone (find the frequency yourself). basically, when they break into your car, the alarm will go off plus the sound of the brown note/tone will make him **** his pants, literally right there on the spot. He'll think twice about breaking into your car to steal the stereo again.
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You need to get yourselves one of these.

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YOU STOLE THAT FROM ME IN THE OTHER POST!!!!!! i was going to post that....
Old Aug 20, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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i put two strobes behind the upper center vents and using a relay,tied them into my alarm's siren output. they're useless in the daylight but at night is a whole different story,they will blind you!! i also put a siren under my console ( you could stash one under each front seat) the idea here is not to catch a thief,just make it uncomfortable to be in the car with the alarm screaming. i also interrupted the starter AND the ignition circuit plus left the VATS intact. don't install the alarm brain under the driver's dash or the siren where it can be accessed from under the car.do install a hood pinswitch and put the led in a spot that can been seen easily from around the car(might make a difference in a smashed window or not).make the wiring resemble factory wiring harnesses as closely as possible.
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On the Halon thing... I don't think you can really purchase much anymore, they stopped making it a while back. Even Summit has stopped listing the systems in the catalog.
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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why dont you add a police siren and lights into your alarm system so when they try to break it they will see that and run away
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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Halon is a bad thing heh, I know I used t have a wodden case of red fire extinguisher bottles, they were blown glass and filled with some halon + thing, anywas when you break them they evacuate all the air in the surrounding area allowing nothing to burn because lack of air.

It also evacuates all the air out of your lungs (etc) Kinda like drowning but with no water , they porlly don;t want the liability of halon anymore, I wouldn't.
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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One tried-and-true tactic...

After installing an expensive stereo, a college friend of mine added two razor blades to the back of his stereo. If someone tried to pull it out they got a nice surprise.

Dunno if it is legal or not but I like the idea...
Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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I've also seen the razor blades added to both the stereo and the subs. And they were never stolen.
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If they dont get your radio they will remember your car and come back and use a baseball bat on it. A friend of mine did the razor blade thing and the theif bled all over the interior. A week or so later he took a sledge hammer to the car and got his revenge back. Something to think about also.
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A week or so later he took a sledge hammer to the car and got his revenge back.
1. I would have been watching my car everyday very closely after the thief had that happen to him so when He did return, I would be waiting with assault rifle and have a few words to say to him before I tell him he will sit and wait for the police to show up or receive a face full of lead whichever his choice should be.

2. I would have ran the blood down to a DNA lab and find out the owner of the blood!
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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2. I would have ran the blood down to a DNA lab and find out the owner of the blood! [/B]
two problems with that
1. blood testing is verry expensive, and the police lab would not give you that information. and no other lab would have access to plic data saying whos blood it was

2.this would also alert the police of your illegal method off protecting your valubles.

not that i would not like to bring a painfull death to car thieves, but the police are not always simpathetic, they seem more wiling to protect the criminals to the best of there ability then to protect us
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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im thinking of just leaving a J-Lo CD in my CD player at all times and rig it up so that whenever someone breaks into my car it blasts it at full volume and the thief cant stand it so much that he abandons my car and moves on to a Cadillac or a Mitsibushi.
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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a barry manilow disc would be better,he writes the songs that makes the young thieves cry,ya know.
Old Sep 13, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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he he he

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So the razor blade might not be the best idea -- what about hooking up a stun gun or other high-voltage source to the radio chassis and ground it so it only is on when the radio is off ).

I drool every time I see the scene in RoboCop when they fry a car theif.
Old Sep 13, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Oddball
So the razor blade might not be the best idea -- what about hooking up a stun gun or other high-voltage source to the radio chassis and ground it so it only is on when the radio is off ).

I drool every time I see the scene in RoboCop when they fry a car theif.
can you go into more detail with this setup? i like it
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im thinking of just leaving a J-Lo CD in my CD player at all times and rig it up so that whenever someone breaks into my car it blasts it at full volume and the thief cant stand it so much that he abandons my car and moves on to a Cadillac or a Mitsibushi.

you mean mitsibitchi :-D
Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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To tell you thr truth I would certainly hook up one lead of the ac 110 the the car body/frame, and one to a 12'x12' extruded metal base. IF it were legal, but the guy in the post right above me /\ hit the nail o the head, I would forget it just once, and thats all that it would take, "fried lykan anyone?" I am not too worried about my neighbors cats (damned footprints) but my border collie would surely get cooked as well. heheh

Maybe just TASZER voltage I would be down for that
In town here a few years back a guy would hook his arc welder up to his truck when he parked it at night so anyone who TOUCHED it, not just broke into it would get the **** shocked out of them, well some kid was going to break in to it ( he saw him doing it, and was laughing in his window) and it shocked him very very badly, as in lying on the ground convulsing, and the kid sued him for around $50k I think, and he said he was just walking by it and touched it, that was the problem was anybody touching it could get shocked, like a little kid or something. But I do remember seeing a few years back a car club sort of deal that supposedly would shock someone with somewhere on the order of 3000 volts, I forget now where I saw it.
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ya always gotta think of legal issues,that's why alarm manufacturers' don't make stuff like that
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Why is it this thread won't die but I can't get a straight answer on my timing light?

Timing thread
Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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If you are going to hook up the old electroshock treatment, you need to also hook up a camera that tapes what the person is doing when they got shocked. A motion sensor starts the tape and the contact, or contact with the door handle sets of the buzzer ).
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In Texas, you can shoot them. But if they live, they can sue. HeHe.
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Originally posted by badjuju342
i put two strobes behind the upper center vents
What kind of strobe lights? Where'd you get them? Have a link? How'd you mount them? etc.



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