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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Sail Panel Speakers

My car has eclipse 4x6's in the dash and an eclipse 12" sub with a 1000 watt legacy amp pushing it all and they highs are really good, but I think that it would be a little better if I would add sum speakers in the sail's. I have no idea even what size speakers go here, it looks like a 6x9 would fit right in and if so tell me what brand of 6x9 u would go with for the best sounding highs becuase it wont be receiving any bass anyways.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:36 AM
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yes the hole fits 6x9s but i wouldnt get them , instead get some nice 6 1/2 component set. it would sound much better. you can remove the metal the 6x9;s screw into and make a plate for the components to screw into and put tham in place of the 6x9,s . also id dump the legacy amp, just mo

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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I would also dymamat back thee before installing the speaker if you use a plate to mount the components. Lots of vibration back there. I made a fiberglass enclosure to house my sail panel speakers.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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i disagree,,,i think a good hiquality set of 4way 6x9s in there would give a nice sound. Go for components in the front putting them in the rear two will kind of keep the same freqencys and double it up...but running different size speakers in the rear will fill in different frequencys. thats just my opinion,,,compnents do offer nice sound but can be more expencive.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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yeah they are 6x9's stock, but a lot of people prefer the sound of a round speaker, they make an adapter to go from 6X9 to 6 or even 5 1/4 round speakers...but if you are considering components id fab up a mounting bracket and move the 4x6's into the sails since you already have them.....

keep the components up front, it makes no sense to me to have a set of components behind the driver, unless of course youre talking about a huge vechile (SUV), with a large cabin...otherwise stick to component sets as being front speakers...

i recommend infinity speakers as the best budget speakers...but budget allowing check into CDTs at www.thezeb.com

also if you decide to go with a set of components you really need an amp for them. or even with some 3-ways you could probably use a small 4-channel amp for your highs..(if you can find an orion cs 200.4 amp for cheap..check into it ebay is a good place to look)

you might want to upgrade the amp on your subs too

www.avionixxusa.com - they have a lot of info on there site and the tsunami amps are a great deal, but you have to call them to place an order on the tsunami's i believe
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by jcurrieirocz
i disagree,,,i think a good hiquality set of 4way 6x9s in there would give a nice sound. Go for components in the front putting them in the rear two will kind of keep the same freqencys and double it up...but running different size speakers in the rear will fill in different frequencys. thats just my opinion,,,compnents do offer nice sound but can be more expencive.
First, a four-way coax will not be the best choice for sound. It fits in with the popular belief that more is better. A two-way would be more than adequate for the frequencies that they are expected to reproduce. Moreover (this has nothing to do with installs in the sailpanels) if you have more speakers, you have more sources of sound and this is where the many different audio waves will either cause cancelation (sp?) and/or screw up the imaging and staging because of pathlength differences.

Secondly, different speakers filling different frequencies is the whole point. So is it bad to have a tweeter that is 1 inch, a mid that is 6 inch and a 12 inch sub in your car because the play different frequencies?

If you do not want to spend a lot, invest in some good quality 6x9's ($80-$120). Don't let us tell you what kind of sound you like, go to an audio shop and take a listen for yourself. If you find a pair that you like at the shop, buy from the shop and they will be a lot more willing to help you in the future.

Post if you have anymore questions. Good luck.

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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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A "GOOD" set of 6x9's will still sound like *** compared to a good set of components. True components are more, but you get what you pay for. A set of components will sound great up to there rated power. There isnt a set of 6x9's made that do sh*t over like 80 watts. If you want cheap, easy to install, ok sounding go with the 6x9s. If you want sound quality and minimal distortion, go with the components.
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by jcurrieirocz
i disagree,,,i think a good hiquality set of 4way 6x9s in there would give a nice sound. Go for components in the front putting them in the rear two will kind of keep the same freqencys and double it up...but running different size speakers in the rear will fill in different frequencys. thats just my opinion,,,compnents do offer nice sound but can be more expencive.
Thats what an EQ is for. go with a round speaker.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Thats what an EQ is for. go with a round speaker.
Just because you have an eq pushing certian sound to your smaller round speakers that doesnt mean they can produse that sound. Eq will help but why put 4 round speakers in instead of 2rounds and 2 6x9s,,,,i dont get your reasoning,,,just my opinion. Different size speakers will deliver different sounds, eq or not.....why not cover as many sizes as possible. Its common sence. Im not saying 6x9s are better then a 5or6" round, im just saying dont stick with all one size.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 01:41 AM
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Due to the shape of a 6x9 the sides are somwhat flat and flex easier than a round cone. the reasons for not needing a 4way setup is because the speakers are not band passed and 2 of the 4 are probably out of your hearing range. If you don't want to invest in subs and want to pretend you have bass then go with 6x9's otherwise get a round speaker made for IB use and band pass it for midbass/midrange. In my car I have just 6.5 midbasses dedicated for 50-250htz range since I can't put kicks in right now. Like said before more isn't always better and an eq is used to cut the frequencies that are to overpowering to offer a more flat and equal sound.

Also make sure you seal all around the mounting plate. If your looking for good SQ or SQL look on some of the boards that are more dedicated to car audio.
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