first off, if you got your stuff stolen out of your car, i am really sorry to hear that. if you ask me, anyone that messes with someone elses car should just get the **** beat out of them with a baseball bat. ok, moving on to the question.....

ok, i am talking about people who had their subs, amps, or whatever mounted in the very rear part of the car in the part that dips down....i think you guys know what i mean. anyway, how did the thieves break into the car to get them? did they break the side window, unlock the door, and then pop open the hatch? or did they actually break the glass on the rear hatch?

the reason i ask is i have a couple subs and an amp on the way, and i think it might be a little safer for me to mount it all back in the rear area in the part that dips down. im thinking itd be safer for me because you can't open up the hatch from inside my car (long story, but the switch no longer works) which would mean itd be pretty difficult to steal anything thats back there unless they actually broke the glass on the rear hatch. do you guys think a thief would give up after that switch didnt work or would they start breaking more glass? i wouldnt think thieves would break the glass on the rear hatch especially since it could damage the subs back there, but its a good chance their dumbasses anyway so ya never know i guess.....

 

I think what they do is break the rear lock.. What I did to sort of help is wired in a door pin linked to the interior lights.. so if the hatch is opened the alarm goes off also.. plus I think it helps if the rear hatch is tinted (if it legal where you are).. as the tinting would hold the glass together.. another option too is try and bolt down the sub box, and put grills over the speakers.. all sorts of things to slow them down in the event the do break in.. besides also.. if they really realyl wanted your stuff they might just take the whole car also.. so do what you can to protect it all..

 

i have the alarm hooked up like that... i took off my tint...
the best way, is to do what i did drill out yout shocks on the hatch and get a wrap around rubber wing... you cant hold that sh-it up to long by hand

 

mine was broken into by the passenger window. they were very prepared, cause they had some kinda saw with them too (box was cut enough to just take the subs and top. all wires were cut as well

 

mine was taken by shattering the passenger window and then popping the trunk. They even went through the trouble to shut it...that or they took it out without popping the hatch. Odd

 

do what i did ... i dont have a buttom to pop hatch so only key will do it and i bought the ... cargo cover .... at a junkyard that little metal door that goes over it and its impossible to open the cover with the hatch down even if there was no window the cover would not open you would have to pop the hatch and make your box hard as shi1 to get out of the hole flip cover open when you ride flip down when you sleep

 

another solution might be to find a hatch shade. it's a piece of vinyl wrapped up on a retractable roller. it mounts just behind the rear seat and pulls out and clips to the bottom of the hatch. the piece of material is as wide as the entire hatch area and covers the storage recess. no one will see what you have back there, unless you show them.

unfortunatly if a theif really wants your stuff he'll get it. the good ones scout their targets. a friend of mine bought a expensive Alpine head unit and had it stolen while the car was in his driveway. they totally scouted him out, they knew exactly what they were looking for and how to remove it. luckily they did it with out damaging anything else in or on the car.

 

I had my 10" sub mounted on the rear deck. It's one of the Infinity Basslink subs with the amp built in. Very nice speaker for our cars. Anyways, the thieves broke in by pulling out on the drivers side window and reaching in and unlocking the door. They broke a window rail inside the door. They popped the deck with the button on the dash. They stole my Kenwood head unit as well. They also popped the hood and stole the Monster cable going from the sub to the battery. They stole my Satellite tuner and snipped the wires on the antenna. Scumbags. The cops caught them as they were driving away and they had a high speed chase through town. The car they were in was stolen believe it or not. While they were being chased, they were throwing stolen items from the car just like the drug dealers do. My Kenwood deck was thrown from the car at about 50 mph. They wrecked their car and the cops kicked their asses before they had a chance to hurl my satellite tuner or subwoofer from the car. Amazingly, my Kenwood landed in the grass. I cleaned the grass out of it and reinstalled it and it works like the day it was new! I'm a loyal Kenwood buyer now. Anyways, when I got my sub back, I took the spare tire out and put it in the well where you have your sub now. I then put the sub in the spot where the spare tire would go. Fits great with lots of room to spare. Mounted my satellite tuner in there too. One disadvantage of having a satellite radio is that the antenna on top of the car is a pretty good indication to a thief that you probably have aftermarket stuff in your car. They SAY that you have to mount the antenna on the metal roof of your car. But mine is mounted on the back glass and it works great. I realized later that you can actually mount it INSIDE the glass upside down and it still works great and isn't visible to thieves especially if oyu have your windows tinted. Food for thought. Matt

 

use T-nuts to fasten everything down instead of screws...most thieves wont have the tools to get those off

or you could also get reverse thread screws so they're trying to tighten it to get it out

 

Or you could hook your alarm up to give them a little 12volt shock everytime they touch the car.

Not really but the concept is shocking!

 

Just get a good alarm system and a wireless video camera... I got one for 50 bucks- a dual mode camera, regular and infrared.

Since I've had my car broken into more times at home than anywhere else, I decided to just plug this camera into the cigarette lighter... plus I have the viper 2-way alarm... and right now I'm trying to find a way so that when my remote start beeping and vibrating to have something wake me up or turn on my lights or something...

I think that if you used strange bolts or shock anyone, that they would totally just stab your subs with a screwdriver, and stick a knife or screwdriver in your headunit...

 

Yeah, I had my Alpine head unit stolen...

Basically, before anything else goes in, I'm putting a 2 way pager alarm in, wired into the rear hatch (so if it opens, it goes off). I'm also planning on using the torx bits (security torx, if I can find 'em! I don't think ANYONE has the tools for those in their little tool box. ) I'm also thinking just using quick disconnects, so that I can remove the box quickly when at home - also going to tint the rear hatch, to hide what I have...

 

thats awsome that you can put the satellite antenna on the inside, do you ever get cutouts when its like that? i hate having mine on top of my car saying please steal this.

 

satellite goes out all the time anyways when its on your roof, I wouldn't even worry about it.

 

Thieves are all about ****** and grab. I don't know anybody who's ever had a thief take the time to remove anything nicely. A prybar is a thieves best friend.
It's all about time. The more time they have to spend removing something the more chance they have to get caught. Whatever you do to put stuff in your car just make sure it takes FOREVER to get it out. Just think...."Is my stuff anti-crowbar removable?" If so they will more than likely just move on to the next car then make all that effort.
Last but not least with anything in life, if they want it bad enough...They WILL take it! You can't protect yourself from professional thieves. If they want it it's theirs. It's only the amateurs you can hope to ward off.
I knew a guy once who told me if he really wanted it he'd just tow it away in the middle of the night repo-style. How many times do you hear car alarms go off in the middle of the night and just roll over and say "shut that s**t off?"
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I believe my 12 gauge shotgun with 3" slugs will deter the thieves.

I might swith to the "fake blood" bullets, if I can find them, much more humane. Until then, it will have to be real ammo.

I like to build a vehicle just for the kids to 'scout' then leave it parked with set bear traps and stuff around it.

ScrapMaker, please share that source for the camera. I'd rather not deal with the legal complications of firing at a thieve, especially in a country that protects criminals more than citizens.

 

search on ebay for wireless camera... you will find a ton of them... they all say about 15 bucks, then 30 bucks shipping from hong kong... the camera works great, plus if its nighttime you could have it sitting right on your dash and get their face on camera... and maybe their car driving up or leaving whatever...

 

One fact I've discovered is that if a thief really, really wants your car or something in your car - he or she is probably going to get it.

I was reading the paper the other day and, according to the local law enforcement, thieves are constantly discovering new ways to circumvent the latest security systems - even "starter kill" equipped ones. Consider this article - Mystery of the Missing Car

I would love a couple of subs and an amp in my car, but unfortunately it's too likely they'll only end up in a '74 Couple DeVille blaring songs by some bloke called 50 Cent....which actually wouldn't bother me so much as the damage to my car!

My point - I wouldn't even buy the stereo equipment unless I either have a garage or plenty of excess money.

 

with a car like that I'd be more worried of someone blaring 50 cent while driving OFF in it...

 

also viper makes an add-on for my car alarm that ties it into the cell network so I can track it, and it can call my cellphone or whatever if it gets broken into... the best feeling in the world would have to be following my stolen car somewhere, and then watching the people get out of it... then walking up and beating them to death with a crowbar one-by-one.... and then put an unloaded gun in the hands of the punk and call the cops... its that easy, and imagine the message that you will send throughout the community of theives...

but the worst part about it, is in real life if you catch someone braking into your car, and you run after them and hurt them in any way, EVEN IF THEY HAVE YOUR STUFF, you can go to jail... I read of someone braking into a car in downtown Austin and the guy came outside and saw the theif with his stereo under his arm, then ran after him and shot him in the leg or something, and went to jail... instead of the theif... so what you need to do is shoot them in your car...

 

I had a "situation" with someone once that required the Sherriffs attention. They told me that "IF" I shot them......Make sure they fall INSIDE!

P.S. I have a Viper Alarm. Wanna elaborate about that add on?

 

How bout bolting your head unit to the ground bolt inside the console.
My head unit has a code to it also. Disconnect the battery or rip the head unit out and you need to code or it wont work.

My sub and amps are all in the well covered by a 3/4 inch thick plate that isnt removable unless the rear hatch is open.

My rear hatch does not open from the outside. And no you can not stick a screw driver in the lock and pry it open because the lock isnt there and the hole is blocked off by thick gauge steel.

 

the add-on is.... http://www.viper.com/security/viper/gps.asp

and also br()bert how do you open that hatch then if you can't open it from the outside? the hatch-release button? thats even easier than breaking into the hatch from the outside... just slip a regular coat hanger through and hit the button... I've had to do that when I locked my keys in before.

 

The best defense against sub theft is to turn off or lower the subs as you drive by shady or potentially shady people. Rolling the windows up doesn't help, bass will penetrate materials and travel much further than you think.

 

No i have a hidden switch that cant be seen even if your inside the car.

 

I have a hidden switch that opens it that you cant see even if your inside the car

 

cool... I am just going to build that viper gps add-on for my car... my brother works at a company that is making that EXACT device for a different purpose, but its literally only like 100 bucks of stuff...

 

i have one of htose hatch cargo pull down shades/covers that you see selling for like 50$ here and there...i htink that is the biggest thing that has saved me...I am also fiarly careful abotu where I park....but so far it has worked wounders...ill see somone glace in the hatch form time to time and see jsut the black ness and they keep walking....annother thing that helps is dont wash your car for long periods of time...then they really figure its not worht their time :0)...annother thing is CUSTOME ENCLOSURES like the fiberglass kind...where the subs, speakers, amp are molded in and nicely secured in....that will really slow them down...a firned of mine has some kinda import (dun memeber what kind cuz they all look the same to me)...but his are custom molded in with the idea of anti theft inmind...and well i tryed taking a hammer to it (he told me to) to get hte amps out and i couldnt...all hammer owuld do is either spring off or hit a slop e and go flying the other direction....

 

ok guys heres what i think........
I think this thread could be very harmfull when read by ppl that particulary want to steal something from a 3rd then. If you look at it some of you basicly told everyone what the best way to steal something out of your car....soory guys but i dont trust anyone on this board to tell them betailed info on how my system is layed out. All im ganna tell ppl here is things i got to help me feel safer.
1-get theft insurance right down all serial numbers and keep resicepts (w/ a low deductable rate also)
2-get a car alarm and put a switches on the hood and hatch....better yet get it instaled profecianaly
3-bolt stuff down the easyer it is for you to take in your house the easyer it will for a thief...you will forget to take your stuff in every night
4-get a detachable face and learn to always take it with you never hid it in the car.
5-keep few or only burned cds in your car...insurance wont cover cds. also never leave them on the seats.
6-tint your window or get a cargo cover
7-get a security code deck if everyone did this cd player theft your be a thing of the past
8-get pager alarms or cell phone tracking thing for your alarm as the sirein nowadays isnt really good enoght.
9-park in well lit areas....and try to stay out of bad neiborhoods when parking overnight.
10-always remeber to turn alarms on and remove faceplate and keep cds out of plain view and have security stickers and flashing leds in plain view,,,also lock doors always even if a few seconds to walk in a store all the time a thive needs to open a unlocked car is the time it takes you to walk in the store with your back turned on your car.
11-never leave wallets or jewlwery or cellphones in your car either anytime they break in there ganna grab everything they can so consider that stuff gone too..also stuff like that in plain view will atract ppl to take your system...same goes for rims..if they plan on taking your rims they will look for a system. lock nuts are a good idea.
12-becarefull what you say on boards and your friends...saying yah im safe the only way they can take something is if.....blah blah blah...is basicly stupid...i heard too many times in highschool of friends riping off other friends....alot of drug users and alcoholics need to support there habit and will steal off friends and family in a heart beat.

I have had my car (not 3rd gen) broken into before....they obviously they scounted the car must of heard me driving with bass turned up cause they had opened the truck by pulling the lever inside the car (next i get one of thoes im disconecting it). funny thing is the truck is behind the engine (in the back right ) no subs there...they didnt find it cause it was under the hood. they did take my brand new 4way kenwood 6x9s (never use 6x9 boxes they are way too easy to steal). they didnt see my sterio at all it was a kamelion jvc they must of thought in the dark the face was gone. I lost alot of cds and they did bust out my widow tint and all. Cops never ever caught them i didnt get noting out of them...fact is your almost never ganna get your stuff back so acept the fact everyones a sitting duck no one is 100% safe and plan now to help prevent it.

 

I've been broken into 3 times now and I don't even bother calling the cops anymore... just adds insult to injury

 

two crackheads tried to pry my door lock out last night. I almost caught them. Thats the fastest i ever saw a human run. They didnt get anything. I had to fix the door though.

I need an alarm.

 

Should have thrown some *rocks* at them... heheh

 

Yeah, shoulda thrown some 9mm "rocks" at them

 

I had to put those anti pry plates over my locks, im getting an alarm friday. I also shaved my ant while i was out there. Not for ani theft just because ...............

 

2-way alarms suck on our cars because they are so low to the ground... they first put my alarm antenna in the dashboard.. and my remote only worked from about 200 feet... then I moved it to the roof liner, and maybe 800 ft... unless there are cars in the way, then anywhere from 100-300ft... this is with Viper 790XV... very expensive!

 

I saw a dei or whatever its called for sale for cheap. All i want is door pins and shock sensor. Im always close by my car so i dont need a paging alarm and i dont leave the windows down so i dont need the microwave sensor thingy either.

 

Even though the 2-ways suck... I'd still get it... 2 out of the 3 times my car has been broken into, I've been sitting/sleeping/standing less than 100 ft away... unless you are ALWAYS looking out the window then It's a must-have... OR you could just get the loudest alarm ever created... I want to upgrade my siren.

 

dont forget when u upgrade ur siren to put ur old one inside your car. No one can steal stuff while 142DB is in their ears

 

They ......... and drive away. Then they drive it like they stole it until it won't run anymore and abandon it.

Or maybe that's just me

 

That's why I don't have/want power locks/hatch release!

When I totalled my car, some jerks broke into the yard that same night and slid my subwoofer plate out of my hatch- somehow without breaking the glass OR scratching the tint! I had tried that on my own, just to see if it could be done, and I couldn't do it. To this day I still don't know how they did it.

 

I bought and installed my alarm today.The seller on ebay backed out on the cod agreement i had with him so i went and bought one. Its a dei keyless entry,(no power locks for me though) Hood pin, hatch pin, and a bunch of extra stuff i wired in. I dont wanna go into detail incase any theives from my area read this thread.

Anyway this was my first alarm i ever installed and i found it to be VERY easy!

Hardest thing is bending down and contorting your back to get to wires in certain places.

 

I just had my whole car tinted at 20%, at night you cant even see in, but during the day you can.

 

some asswipe tried to break into my car ealry one morning. It was about 5 in the morning and I was kinda awake and I heard this funny metalic clunking sound. So I glanced out the window and saw a masked guy walkin up to the back of my black IROC with a metal baseball bat like he was gonna smash the rear window out. The window of my room was open about 3 inches and the barrel of the 30.06 behind my bed fit perfeclty in it I yelled at him, he took off, I was on the phone to the local poe poes and an hour later, they caught him. Apparently, he was targeting my neighborhood and had already stolen 2 stereos out of other vehicles near my house. Why he was targeting my IROC is waaaaay beyond me because I had not stereo in it, not even the stock one, nor did I have any speakers in it.......maybe its just the car......

 

Id've shot him just to teach em a lesson.... stealing = bad... but just wound em in the leg or somethin, and don't walk outside so no one knows who did it...

I guess I sound like a psycho, but if I ever actually CATCH a thief stealing my stuff, I'd probably go berzerk...

 

Just to let everybody know I work for a motorola dealer installing 2-way radio equipment. Now that that is said my stereo was completly bolted into the dash to prevent theft and a cd changer was custom mounted in the center console glove box. The stereo was still stolen, they only had to destoy my entire center console to get it out I found my heater and ac controls on the floor so a little advice is to install it right but not completly difficult because they will damage more of your car to get it. If you have an alarm hook up air horns with the siren they will wake the dead, I only did it a day too late.

 

Yeah, after having my deck, amp, sub and others (radar, g-tech, gauges) stolen, part of me wants them to just take the stuff and leave rather than destroy the car trying to get it. It's so sad that we have to almost anticipate these things happening. My driver's door was "slim-jimmed" and the stuff was nabbed from the back seat, they never even popped the hatch. UGH - these topics make me SO ANGRY!

 

Is there a way to Slim-Jim proof our doors? I tried with one once (on MY car!) and after a few trys I could do it in a few seconds! It's just too easy to have stuff stolen. Luckily I live in the boonies so I haven't had it happen to me, but it has happened to my friend. Funny story with that is, he found the guy selling the stuff at school in the parking lot and kicked his *** royally

 

i dont think there is. An alarm with door pins glass brake sensor etc and a gun or a bat with nails in it is the only answer.
When you catch the loser breaking into your car you beat them so bad that in the future when they hear a car alarm they sh*t themselves and cry like a baby.

 

I hear that. The NYPD 102nd: "Well, we found out your problem. Some of your stuff has been stolen."

I'm still looking for the best solution before I take my car to work. I work in the Subway, most of the time underground, so the usual alarm system won't help. I just need something that will make them give up... people ignore alarms and I can't do anything because I wouldn't hear mine anyway.

Even the maintenance yards aren't any better, even with "security" people's cars are broken into.

Want a laugh? We even have people breaking in and stealing parts from the TRAINS (in the security partolled yards) and getting away!

 

Yes there is.
What's a Slim Jim do? Unlocks your doors right? So what seems to be the prob here...LOCKS. No locks = Nothing to unlock. No handles = nothing to open the door with.
Downside = Very costly to remove handles and locks plus all you need to do is break the window and you're in.
Solution = Big Dogs are your best defense. And they are cheaper and easier to install than an alarm.
No matter what you do...if they want it bad enough it's there's.:werd: