i have two infinity 6x9s and two polk 4x6's and a sony head unit that is 52x4 . The problem is that when i bought the system they asked me what kind of music i like and i told them rock . Well i like rap more now . So the speakers i have , they have no bass at all. SO im wondering if i get 1 12 will it be enough.I want to spend about 400 on the whole thing. Ill make my own box , but i want to buy something that will be good enough . I dont think i need 2 12 and i dont want the space taken up or the weight . does anyone have a single 12 and their happy with it . Any help or suggestions.

 

Yep, as long as you get a quality sub, good power and a correctly sized box. I've been running a single 10" for years.

 

you'd be better off with 1 good quality 12 inch sub than 2 ****ty 12 incher's.....

size of sub or quanitity of subs doesnt have much to do with volume or power or quality....

 

With no real "trunk" a single quality 8" or 10" sub in a well designed (probably ported), well built box, tuned properly with good power can be sufficient. The key, as with anything, is in the details.

 

Agreed. 1 good 12 is better than 2 not-as-good 12's. I ran 1 Alpine 1241D and was pretty happy.

 

"enough" completely depends on how loud you like it. One good quality 12" sub, when powered sufficiently, can get loud enough to make your hair stand on end and make your gut hurt. However, that's not "enough" for a lot of people. Likewise, a cheap sub powered by a crap amp won't get nearly as loud as a good sub with a good amp. One 12" Brahma or RE XXX sub powered by a high power (1500 watts) class D amp will out-pound a pair of normal 12s with reasonable power, and will sound better too.

However, I think the best method would be to make sure you have a good quality high power amp, and go buy yourself one 12" sub. If you find that it's not loud enough, you can always buy another. If you have a good enough amp, you won't need to upgrade that to power the 2nd sub.

 

you know thats a real good idea about buying a good amp . What gauge wire should i run . I have no clue about doing stereo stereo setups but i dont trust anyone else to do it . Do you guys have pics of what your single sub setup looks like .

 

The gauge wire will depend on what current the amp draws. Most likely, if you want loud bass, you'll be using an amp that requires at least 4 AWG wire, possibly bigger.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

I have 1 12" in my trunk and it's just fine. I have an equalizer under my deck, and I NEVER even put the sub up to even half way. It's an older alpine running off like a 400w Xplod and it bumps just fine for me.

Btw, I listen to rock, rap and electronica...

 

I agree with everyone else. If your gonna do it go quality stuff. I recently bought a pair of Phoenix Gold TX10s and they sound light years better then my 2 12" sonys....

Also..4 gage should be good up to about 1000 watts. After that your gonna need bigger gage and probably a capacitor or better alternator.

I dont know much about car audio and how brands sound but some good brands Ive seen tossed around are.

Phoenix gold--have em
JL audio
Adire
Resonant Engineering
Alpine
JBL?

stay away from..

Pyramid
Lightning audio
Pyle
Volfenhang
Sony


Well anyway. talk to u later.

Nate

 

well i just checked out some polk momo 12 inch subs . they sound nice and have a good price, but where is the best place to get speaker stuff online. I know many online places have better prices and i really dont care about the wait since the car is off the road now.

 

if you like how those polks sound, I'd suggest listening to more stuff.

Good online sites include thezeb.com, sounddomain.com, etronics.com, and ikesound.com.

 

I havent listened to polks but Im sure if you look around youll find some better brands for same price. I just got one word....EBAY! I bought a combination that would be 1000.00 ish for around 450.00. You really cant beat ebay. Just look for a warranty if you go ebay.

Like I said.

ALpine, Phoenix, JBL, JLaudio, Adire? RE? are supposably all good for sound quality. If you just want BOOM you might be able to go a little cheaper. But the PGs I bought sound 100x better then some cheap sonys I had and slam my seat pretty hard.

Make sure you ask us about tuning your subs too. You might get some good subs but not tune them to sound good.

Let us know how it goes. There should be some places around that have decent subs. Circuit city might have Type-Rs(alpine) and Tweeter may have some JLs on display. Just ask for assistance.

nate

 

I concur with the one sub bandwagon also. I have 1 Solobaric 10" in a ProBox Super Bass ported box and 1100 w RMS @ 1 ohm and that sucker will make your head hurt and get as low as you want. One sub will work.

 

umm....which solo? L5? L7? an older round model? they're nice subs man, but cmon now Its still a 10" sub bud. I'm also impressed you're running that much power to it. <brave soul>

The definition of "get as low as you want" and "make your head hurt" can vary from person to person quite dramatically. A single sub solution while still getting scary? Consider one of the "super" subs out there.

1. Adire Brahma
2. Stereo Integrity Magnum
3. Resonant Enginering XXX
4. Onyx Monster (if you can find one)

A single 12" Adire Brahma provides the same output as 2 or 3 "normal" subs with decent power. It can get downright farkin nasty with big power (1500 wrms lets say). if you wanna stick with one sub and still want to scare yourself, this is the way to go.

I ran a single Lanzar DC 15" sub in my zee for a while in a 1.5 cu. ft sealed box. I was VERY impressed with the extension and output it had with the small power I had. Granted it was NOTHING compared to the Brahmas i've heard lately, but it still pounded!

bmoney

 

the good thing about the brahma is it takes a very small box and has excellent SQ.

so you could even go with a single brahma 15.

the box will still be quite small (unless you dont want it to be) and you'll have better SQ than 90% of 12s out there

 

yes, an SQ application, the enclosure can be reasonably small. with adequate power, it will still have more output than 95% of subs you'd consider buying.

if you can give it room and port it, that sub is a monster....scary levels of output from a single driver. VERY nice.

bmoney

 

One 12" is the way to go. JL Audio has a ton of solections within any price range. Kappa Perfects are a good woofer too.

 

For one single 12..I like either a XXX, or the Elemental designs series (I use ED in my SQ car, one 12 powered with 800 watts...). Any good twelve will pound fine in our cars....look to power it with around 800-1000 watts and you will be set.

 

That don't mean squat..

Subwoofer diameter <> End-all characteristic determining SQ and SPL

 

170 has been achieved with 1 measley 10 inch sub

 

huh. had not heard of that one yet. who? what? termlab or rta?

bmoney

 

sure it does you're right, its not the end-all, but it plays a huge part in output. Think of a subwoofer the same as a piston in an engine (both are meant to move air). How do you increase output of an engine, all other things being left alone? increase bore and/or stroke, right?

bore = subs diameter and stroke = xmax of the sub. given the same parameters otherwise (power level, box, vehicle, etc), these are the ONLY TWO parameters that determine output of a sub. So I'd say means something! If spl'rs run smaller subs, ever notice just how many they run? thats to maximize cone area

Also, reason I brought it up is that yeah, its a solobaric. but its /just/ a solobaric 10" sub. Nothing that off-the-wall for sure...and having installed dozens of them along the way, I can say for sure

beezy

 

one dd9510 in nathan munsons 78 civic cvcc extreme car

running off of either 2 or 4 DEI 1100ds or 2 Viper 2500ds cant remember

on termlab

 

ive got 2 of these Infinity 12" 1200watt subs i originally ran 1 of these in a qlogic 12"box... couldnt complain it sounded real good... sounded alot better sealed box then ported...

Click here for good price on sub as far as amps go ive got bazooka i havent had any problems yet

 

thats a great sub, now which amp woud i use to power it . I was also thinkin about an infinity basslink for the car . I heard one in a hatchback eclipse about a year ago and it seemed pretty loud .

 

yea but you cant base your opinion on the the equipement used by hearing one setup. 90% of it is install.

 

have you got an article or something on it? I've seen competition vehicles with multiple DD 95 series 15's that have 4000 watts a piece not do 170 man. there must be more to it

bmoney

 

sorry it was 169.8...about a year and a half ago id say. its in an extreme car.
he was using 4 DEI 1100ds strapped together...i have pics of the car but non when it had that single 10 setup in it.