I have questiong bout some subs. I recently completed my sub encloser for my 84 Z28 and was wonder what subs to put in for a reasonable price. Would Jl Audio 12" 12W1V2D8 wake up the neighborhood faster than say these 1800 Max Power Acoustik FUBAR-12W. The JL's are about $130 from tweeter new, and the PA's are $79 from a distributor that I have an account with. Please any help in me finding me the right subs is greatly apprieciated!

 

alpine type R's are better, and you can get them cheaper.

 

Go with the JL's over the Acoustik's

And I have also heard good things about the Alpines (it's just something about the Type R name that turn me off

 

If all you're after is boom, there are better speakers than JL. JL speakers are aimed at giving you a great combination of SPL and sound quality.

But in general, good quality stuff will ALWAYS trump cheap crap. That's not to say that you can't find some incredible bargains out there, but there's a difference between buying a bargain and buying cheap crap. Some of the smaller brands that are fueled by their Internet reputation such as Adire, Resonant Engineering and others are manufacturers that sell a very good product at a very good price compared to the big name stuff, and are a very good choice if you're willing to put the time into researching them and getting feedback from other online users. If you don't have the time or desire to do that work, then stick with a well respected name like JL, Diamond or Boston Acoustics to name a few. While you may pay more for these brands, you're still getting an excellent quality driver that's worth the cost.

 

some more good mids are kicker. they have good 6X9's. as for subs, there are better or just as good for cheaper.

 

I would take a w1 over a type r any day of the week. Type r's are very nice subs, very clean and loud, but jl subs are cleaner and louder. Id take w0s over type rs...

Like jim said, adire. I installed two adire shiva 12s in my buddies truck with a jbl 1200.1... wow those things SLAM and they are clean too! and even better yet... THEY ARE CHEAP!!!

 

actually it depends on what size, and size of the box. i could take 2 type R 12's and the right box, and smoke 2 W0's everyday of the week, plus make it sound louder and clearer in the right enclosure, it all depends on installation to. not just equipment.


but now a W6v2 is a different story, people say those are even better than W7's.

 

I have 2 12" type R's in my Firebird. Excellent subs for the money. I also had a set of 12" w0's in my Lumina. While I was pleased with these subs for the money, my type R's will get MUCH louder. The type R's are definately a better sub, but they were also more money. Just an opinion from someone who's heard both.

 

exactly. plus u can get 1 type R 12 for $120 at sonicelectronix.com.

 

theres a guy on caraudio.com named tommyk90 that hits over 150 decibals with a single ported type r 10 and 2000 watts. ive never heard of people doing 150 db burps with w0, w1's, or even w3's.

not that i much care for the type r's, i need better sound quality since i mostly listen to jam bands and classic rock.

 

yup, most of the cases that iv'e heard, most of them are atleast in their 140's db, some 149 or even 150 or higher. even go to thecaraudiobox.com, they won many trophies at db drags just by using 2 type R 12's in a custom box, now where have u heard about a W0 doing that? yes W0's are ok, but they arent the stuff you want if you want serious sound. plus one of the guys at thecaraudiobox.com, i talked to the owner, and he said he usually runs an orion 2500D amp to 2 type R 12's, and they can take it, thats 1250 true watts going to each sub, maybe even more. so not only are they loud and clear, but very durable.

 

i wouldnt recommend buying a box from them, if they're even still selling them. mark potts, the owner, recently pissed off a lot of people taking forever to make their boxes, and from what i understand, even took a couple of peoples money. people are pissed, and law enforcement is involved.

plus that guy was full of ****. always bragging about how he could make a ported box for any sub in any car, and it would be louder than anything anyone else could build. real tool of a guy.

 

maybe before, but i just recently purchased a box from them and had no problems, even hits better than my other box. he made this one from birch and it sounds a hell of a lot better than my MDF box. plus, im not telling him to buy from them, im stating a point on what you can and cant do, jl audio is very good yes, but there are brands out there just as good or better, for the same price range.

 

kicker for the money there is a place hear that does them buy one get one free all the time ive had a few my self and swear buy them cant beat 99 bux for 2 comps either place is called ckr there in montgomery alabama if you want to look them up i think they do online sales

 

ya kicker is good, i just dont like their L5's or L7's, they get loud but do not hit that hard, my 05S15L5 got loud but didnt hit that hard. the comps rock!

 

That's because the people buying W0s aren't usually bassheads who are willing to sacrifice all of their sound quality for a ported SPL tuned 1-note wonder system. Type R's have gotten such a reputation for being a bargain, that a lot of boomers are using them.

Any high excursion sub can be made to get retarded-loud in a ported box that's built for extreme efficiency at one frequency. Unfortunately, it sounds like complete *** when you set up a system this way.

A W0 is not a boomer sub. A Type R really isn't either, but has proven to do well in that role. The thing is, price for price, the Type R is more like a W3 or a W6, either of which will also do very well in similar applications. The Type R just seems so much cheaper because Alpine does a terrible job of stopping their product from getting onto the gray market, and as a result, the subs can be purchased cheaply from non-authorized retailers.

 

ok you dont have to get all pissy because im giving the kid advice. chill out im just trying to help him out, not get into a debate on the best subwoofers, all i was saying is that Type R's are better than the W0's.

 

Amen Brother.

 

Who's pissy? You're the one getting all defensive. I just explained that a W0 to Type R comparison is a bit lopsided, and then explained why.

 

You're missing the point. Two subs in two vary different applications, one more SPL, one more SQ. Not really a good comparison. Hard to say one is better then the other when looking at two ends of the car audio spectrume. I'm not pissy...... yet.

 

i never said u was pissy needz, and jim, sorry i got "defensive", it seemed to me like you were pissy, but ok, since thats said, i think hes got enough info for an enclosure and sub, lol.