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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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ok, the radio is installed, but there is no sound, nothing at all, well i brought my speakers out of the house and hooked them straight up to the head unit, and nothing.... my brother said the speaker outputs are blown....is this right? i checked the fuse and its good, i checked everything but it has nothing at all, so is the speaker outputs on the head unit blown? does this mean ineed to get a new one? or is this a easy fix??
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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What kind of radio is it? Some radio's have the option to disable the internal power amp for those that just use the line level outputs.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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you probably hooked a wire or 2 up wrong
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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no

no he said all the wires where hooked up right, cause thecd worked so did the radio it all had power, just nothing out of the speakers..... and its a Sony Head Unit Xploud
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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that'l explain it....sony xplod.
Again Iroc_man you dont have to put down what other people have.

This happened to my mom in her car and I found that in the factory wiring harness their was a single strand of wire poking out of a negative wire and touching the posative wire. This will make none of your speakers put out any sound. Check all of your wires to make sure nothings touching.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Yes, most likely the speakers are blown and are ground out inside themselves. That will cause the stereo to go into protection mode, normally, and no sound will be played on any speakers. I had the problem in my car when the speaker would move and it would ground out the wires on the body of the car.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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again mknab, be quiet, i was stating a fact. sony xplod sucks, thats not putting someone down.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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No, it isn't putting someone down, but I highly doubt that the mere fact it is Sony Xplode stuff is the problem. That doesn't help the guy asking the question out as to what the root of the problem is. If he had asked for recommendations on speakers it would be different, but he wasn't asking for speaker advice, he wanted tech help.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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im just stating that sony xplod is cheap, so something probably malfuntioned in the HU or something.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Wow, Iroc_man... are you capable of NOT causing problems?

hey evilmonkey... do you have any speakers that you KNOW work fine? you can even hook up some home audio speakers, as long as they aren't lower than 4ohms... which they most likely won't be... if you still don't get output, then there is a possibility your internal amp is disabled, or defective...

remember, you can hook up two speakers by themselves, you don't need all four.

if you don't get output after testing some good speakers, start digging through your menu options... typically it's a menu you get to when the unit is 'off'... by holding some source/menu/configuration button...

can you give us some more information? which Xplod deck is it? Is it new? Are your speakers new/known to work?

Thanks
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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ok

ok i bought a new head unit, and it is doing the exact same thing, i bought a pioneer head unit, and pioner 6x9 speakers, but they stay do it, i turn it on and it "pops" but nothing afterwards, but we hooked it up direct 12 volt and ground and when u touch the ground the speakers crackle alittle it, but we checked the volts going to the head unit and it reads 12 volts, so.....wat is it, we got 3 people messing with this and we are all boggled......please help anyone!!!!
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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okay, so you are saying that the headunit comes on, just like normal? You see the screen light up, and it appears functional--- but no sound comes out of the speakers?

You can tell that the unit is trying to play music, but there's just nothing coming out?


If you can... do you have any way of hooking up the headunit to a stand-alone car battery? Like a spare battery, or one of those 12v jump-start batteries? It would be awesome if we could rule out bad car-wiring. Then you could just hook up the speakers directly... I have a feeling that one of the speakers is shorting somewhere... either in the speaker itself, in the wiring harness, or somewhere between the harness and the speaker...

If you were to turn on a normal deck that works great, and just cross the 'positive' and 'negative' wires that go to any speaker, you'd most likely (at a high enough volume,) cause the unit to go into some sort of protect mode. I've never seen a headunit that actually notifies you of this, but the sound will just stop. The internal amplifier shuts off to avoid damaging itself.

A great test, if you cannot run the unit outside of your car, is to see if the RCA outputs are putting anything out... if not, then it's not just the speaker outputs, and we can move on from there.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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well

well we did something similiar to that but it still didnt work, the speakers work i hooked them up in my house and they worked fine, i dont get it, 2 units and both doing the same thing.....that aint possible, well it is cause its happening to me, i will try that 12 volt thing out of the car, but i am thinking bad wiring also....80's sucked for wiring anyway, but what do u think man...i am stumped.....
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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I would unhook all 4 pairs of speaker wires, and hook them back up one at a time to see if any of them work.

If one of them were shorted, or not hooked up properly, it is possible that the amp in the new radio got damaged. If you hook the wires up one pair at a time and still get nothing I would return the stereo for an exchange, then begin trying the speaker wires one pair at a time.

Does the car still have its original factory wiring harness for the stereo?
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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yes

yes but he had the harness of and just wires, but iono, i think i might try that 12 volt thing tomorrow, but yea i will call hits if that dont work though.......
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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I think at this point I would say screw the factory wiring and just run new speaker wires to all the speakers and use the factory harness for power only.

The amount of time you have invested in troubleshooting the problem, you could have rewired the stereo system several times over.

If you bought brand new 6x9's, maybe try unhooking all the speaker wires from the factory harness and use one of the speaker wires that came from your new speakers and kinda makeshift wire it to a speaker to see if you get sound.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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its possoble that yes there may some bad wiring somewhere, but if you have an amplifire anywhere in the circuit between the head unit and the speakers, make shure it is hooked up and on. this includes a factory boes system. i know ford used jbl and i know chevy used boes and i think 1 other type. anyway if there is a factory amp make shure you hook it up to a wire that only gets power when the radio is on. and if you have a system in ther i wouldnt advise hooking it up to the remote wire. if you dont have a system the remote wire, which by the way will either be blue or blue /w a white stripe that comes off of the back of the head unit, is a great thing to use. just make shure that you turn on the subwoofer selection to tell it to send power. it may sound dificult but its very easy. just remember, because you switched head units, the rest of the factory wiring set up is still there. if you dont have a factory or aftermarket amp there is likely a bad wire or a grounded wire somewhere. hope this helps
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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i would just try a hooking up a different HU and see what happens then, if you get sound, then you know its the HU, if you dont, then you know for sure that its within the wiring.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!

ok guys thanx for all your help, i got it working today, i found out that one of my positive connections fell off in the door, so thanx for everyones help, i appreciate it!!
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Iroc_man
again mknab, be quiet, i was stating a fact. sony xplod sucks, thats not putting someone down.

The topic at hand is that this guy is trying to get sound, not bash his own hardware. I noticed you said it's just cheap and that's probably the problem - which it very well could be, but isn't the first thing one looks at. This is especially true if the unit powers up.

If you can't help or otherwise be useful with your posts, don't bother posting. I've seen you do this on other threads too and it's getting old. Thanks.

Regarding this issue, as others stated, it's most likely one of the wires for a speaker is grounded or crossed. You can always try one speaker wired up at a time... looks like thaforce already suggested this

Wait - just noticed that you said you found the problem - it was a wire grounding out
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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I had a feeling it was wiring... it was sending the amp into protect mode
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Aaaah Technology

In the old days the output chip would have popped like a zit.

Glad you got it going man.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by True
The topic at hand is that this guy is trying to get sound, not bash his own hardware. I noticed you said it's just cheap and that's probably the problem - which it very well could be, but isn't the first thing one looks at. This is especially true if the unit powers up.

If you can't help or otherwise be useful with your posts, don't bother posting. I've seen you do this on other threads too and it's getting old. Thanks.
excuse me, what is your problem? the argument was dropped, so why the hell are you bringing it back up? as for tell me what to do, i see your a junior member, not a moderator, so be quiet. second of all, if the HU is crap(which it is), then there could possibly be a problem inside the HU, even though he found the problem, thats what it could of been, obviously if something is made cheaply, is made cheaply inside also, causing the item to be broken easy from the factory. so why dont you mind your own business and stop creating problems, and yes, its not the first thing one looks at because the person dosen't think that far ahead, which they should. again, you need to stop creating fights and back off.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Good thing he figured out the problem, because Iroc_man seems to get nearly every thread he is involved in closed...

the price/quality of a headunit RARELY has to do with an initial problem... companies still do QC and would most likely not put out a product that does not work...

he described the problem, and from that, the logical assumption was that there was a wiring issue, NOT that he had a 'crappy' deck... you really need to learn your place... We try to help people here, and telling them that what they have purchased is not very good really isn't remotely close to help...

and being a "Junior Member" means almost nothing... he could have 10,000 posts on another audio forum, and joined up with thirdgen recently for one reason or another, most likely NOT for the car audio section. Not that it's bad or anything, but you just don't join a specific car forum for that reason alone.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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ok

ok i got the amp hooked up, and both 10's pushin...have you all ever heard of AutoTek? thats the amp i got...
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Cant say I have heard of it. But it is probably made in the same plant at 10 other brands. If it works and sounds good score
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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yes

yes it sounds pretty damn good, but i will probably give the amp back to my brother, and get a kicker amp...
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Just did some reading on AUTOTEK, thats probably a pretty nice amp you have there. They definately live amongst some well respected brands.

A U T O T E K
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Looks interesting, I like the Ipod/Satellite interfaces... too bad there's no dealer close to me to check them out...I don't know though...we better check with Iroc_man It may all be crap.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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my brother

my brother said its a 500 dollar amp...he was like the more speakers u hook to it the louder it gets.....i think he is full of **** though....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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evilmonkeyracin, technically, he is correct - if there's power for the speakers, adding more will safely make it louder. If it's the same speaker, less than 3db per speaker.

I don't care as much about loudness as clarity and performance, though (if you can get all three it's a certain win)
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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i just want

i just want to hear boom and feel it....and hope it sounds decent...i gave my dad a head ache lol
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Just keep in mind power availability and impedence when installing, make sure you don't clip things to death, and have fun
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