does any 1 know how much a sub box would be that goes right behind the back seats of a 91 rs camaro. i mean on the metal part leading down to the trunk. i want to put subs in my car but i still want to be able to use my trunk. id rather the subs be out of sight but its the only way i know that i can still use my trunk...

idk if they even make these boxes or if i can get a box that goes in the trunk but i still want to be able to use my trunk

 

most will not put them there because it blocks your view and an extreme safety hazard if you're in an accident. if you dont want to take up all of the well, go with one sub and use the bottom section only. if you get creative with a grill, you'll still have over half the area for storage

 

some food for thought. there are members on here that have put their sub in the spare tire spot. i dont remember whose it was, but i think they had a sub that had the amp built in to it. it would be a custom enclosure that might be more hassle than its worth

 

I simply built a shelf to go across my hatch - rests on the teo small humps on each side of the well. I have one 10" in there, but 12's will fit (I have 12" grills on top). The amp is located on the underside in the middle. The second grill is for looks only. Underneath, there's still pleanty of storage area for a small tool bag, jumper cables, I have a power inverter there, and the wife's purse hides under there during cruise-ins/carshows. And I still have plenty of useable space for stuff. Here's a pic:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...92RS/logo1.jpg

 

hows the sound with this? i really like this design. how much would it cost to have it done?

 

If you've got a miter saw and a day to work at it you can build one yourself for between 30-40 bucks. They do sell them prebuilt on ebay, but considering that they want almost triple the materials I think its a rip off. But heres the link if you interested.


http://cgi.ebay.com/CHEVY-CAMARO-82-...efaultDomain_0

 

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Originally Posted by SKS Immortal
hows the sound with this? i really like this design. how much would it cost to have it done?

I'm an old fart - not looking to blast out the neighborhood with window-shattering bass, but it sounds great to me. Cost me maybe $20 and an hour work - it's just 3/4 mdf board, hole drilled for sub, covered in carpet from Walmart.

The chevy symbol I cut from a piece of 1/4in plywood, saned, painted black, drilled holes in each corner, and ran EL wire in and out until it was woven all the way around - EL wire connected to remote wire, so only lights when stereo is on.

 

On closer inspection the link I gave you is actually for one that sits above the edge of the hatch well, I know I saw one once like camaronewbie has but I can't find one anywhere on ebay right now. But really just a couple screws some glue and a piece of mdf and you got yourself a box.

 

i dont want it to be extremely loud either i just want something past normal speaker bass. i mean im gettign 2 800 watt speakers for the back and 150 for the front but i want the bass as well and im prolly going to throw a 1800 watt sub in it. and what do u mean wove the wire? is there any reason to do that? sorry ive never messed with trying to build a sub box

 

I was just talking about the little chevy symbol where I fed the Electroluminescient Wire in and out of the drilled holes in the chevy symbol to get the wire to be the same shape.

The "box" is not a box at all, just a flat board that rests on the little humps on each side in the rear well, cut the hole for the sub, and covered in carpet - $20 total, took an hour to make.

 

thanks i thiink i might do this to my car

 

The hardest part is running the amp power wire - you HAVE to make sure that it's not going to ever get grounded anywhere. Many make this mistake, and end up with their ride in the JY after the battery exploded from being shorted out and caught fire.

I got a 6in piece of fuel hose, slit it down the side, and wrapped around the amp power wire. Then I drilled a hole through the fenderwell on the pass side just below the connector for the pass wiring harness - this hole was large enough for the amp power wire that was wrapped in the fuel hose. I filed the sharp edges of the hole from the drill, making sure there was nothing sharp enough to cut into the wire/fuel hose. Then inserted. The fuel hose adds another 1/8in of insulation around the amp wire to make sure it will never ever get cut into by the sharp edges of the drilled hole. Runs to the battery in the front, and under the carpet on pass side all the way back to the rear where the spare is.

You just want to make sure that there's never any chance that the amp power wire is going to get cut, pinched, or otherwise grounded anywhere.

 

thanks ill keep this in mind when im running the wire for it

 

This is avoided if you just run a fuse next to the battery like you're supposed to. As far as the shelf subs instead of the box subs. Please do a little bit research before you do this. Conventional wisdom says this is not a good idea.

 

ok then what do u supposed i do? idk if im even gunna run it i might have my brother run it for me

 

When you run the wire off the battery add a fuse as close to the battery as possible (<1ft). That way if your wire grounds out for whatever reason (accident, stupidity, bad shielding) the fuse will pop and prevent you car from going up in flames.

Try using the antenna wire hole to get the wire into the car. That way you don't have to drill a hole in your firewall.

The "correct" way to mount a sub is in a box.

 

Depends on the sub - that's a pretty broad statement given that alot of subs are "free air" designs.

But I'm not in disagreement with you - in a sealed box is usually the best way.

However, unless you are building some super system designed to vibrate every bolt loose and rattle the neighbors windows 3 blocks before you get home, it's not as necessary as everyone makes it out to be.

I guess it depends on what music you are listening to, at what volumes, and how much bass you desire. I listen to alot of stuff, and I like it loud - but not loud enough to rattle anything on the car or the houses I drive past. I get plenty of good hard-hitting bass that accents the music I listen to instead of over-running it. I listen to alot of "classic" rock, 80's rock, also soul, R&B, some rap, sometimes jazz. I love the Kia commercial songs! (the hamsters rock!)

But making the single board 'shelf' works amazingly well for as simple as it is. In essence by doing this it is a box, I'm just using the bottom of the car as 5 of the 6 sides. It's not airtight - but then again neither are these boxes with tubes in them.

I'm no stereo expert by any means, and I totally understand the sealed box. I had a sealed box before (a standalone - not form-fitted to the car) with the same sub and amp. My simple shelf actually sounds better than the sealed box did (I'm assuming because now the sub has more free space than it did in the box). And it definitely looks alot better!

I guess in the end, it only costs $20 and 1 hour to find out if it works for you. (and $15 of the $20 is for the carpet from Walmart). I think that for most, unless you are trying to win the national stereo competition, it does a fine job. I've never had any other local 3rd gen folks say my stereo sounded sub-par ... they all seem to be amazed at the quality given the simplicity.

 

i want it loud enuff to where i can turn it up and it will readjust my mirror. i mainly listen to rap and rock

 

I listen to music loud but am critical on sound quality. By running a shelf, you are basically introducing a port. The port length is super short (3/4") which in theory makes the box tuning super high frequency. It is my opinion that running a shelf sub you will loose 20-60hz performance. Most ported boxes are tuned around 30-34hz for car subs, which boosts performance around that frequency. Building a sealed box, you don't have to worry about port tuning.

As for free-air subs. The front of the sub still needs to be sealed from the back. They are typically used in trunk cars where the sub is mounted in the rear deck and the trunk is used as the airspace. Using a shelf configuration, the rear of the sub is not sealed from the front.

Its all about how good you want it to sound and how much work you are willing to put in.

SKS, it sounds like all you want is boom boom. In that case I'd build a ported box. I lot more work but its the output king.

 

idk how to build em but how much would it cost to get one made? im going to be taking the car to school which is why i wondering about the trunk but i guess i cld always put it in my back seat bookbag and other stuff

 

Probably a lot. Unless you just bought one of those pre-made boxes.

Maybe try the shelf sub first and see if you like. At least if you don't like it, you're only in a few dollars.

 

yea i was thinking that and i cld make it where the board lifts up to put stuff in the trunk like my books and crap