GreekItalianMan

I'm a bit confused. I know I have the performance sound with the gain switch and all that. Pretty sure it has to be 4x6 in the rear and 5'' sub. What's a good replacement speaker for both sides (trying to keep it 4x6 tho, no hacking away for me) Plus, do the old connectors fit with the new speakers or do i have to solder something ?

92-Formula

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+1 on this post. I need some 4x6 speakers for the front of my firebird - > but want something that fits properly. I had a pair of infinity reference speakers before and they did not fit.

alistair

yeah, I'm confused. I opened up the dash top and I have a pair of nice new Pioneer 4x6 and they don't do anything like fit. The speakers in there seem to be set in a plastic panel but my Pioneers won't fit in them, nor will they fit the hole when the plate thing is removed. Also the connectors on the dash loom don't fit the speakers and one one side its too short to reach anyway.

I wondered if there was a fitting kit to put aftermarket speakers in the dash top? I read some guys install larger speakers in there, I have a set of 5x7 Kickers I would use if they can go in.

I just want something that sounds OK, no kidding all the stock speakers in my car are blown!

its an '87 or '88 Trans Am GTA with the digital dash.

Any help would be great

1ADan

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the birds are a little tighter on clearances than the camaros when it comes to dash speakers. you could use a heat gun to warm up the vent and mold it a bit more out of the way. the plates can sometimes help since the mid magnet is offset. I'm not much of a fan of trying to wrestle with the small speaker in the confined stock spots, so I opted for components in the kickpanels. Much better sound and many more speaker options (although a bit more pricey)

GreekItalianMan

I'm not really into cutting up my car. Do the new speakers fit the old connectors or do you have to buy some sort of adapter for the stock wires?

cser 84 Z28

i just got done replacing my front speakers in my 84 camaro with Dimond 4" rounds. they came with adapters fo the 4x6 and bolted right in. they sound great and there is no visual difference or cutting involved. depending on the quality you get the vary in price. i got my pair for about $110.00

cser 84 Z28

stock wiring worked with them too. a little cutting and stripping of wires was involved as the new speakers had different contact points. but it was a relatively quick and easy job. just make sure to ask the store clerk for a wiring schematic. saves you a bunch of headaches

88TransAmGuy

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Just try to find some 4x6's with small magnets. The driver side is much tighter than the passenger side

alistair

My problem was that the speakers didn't even seem to fit the size of the hole, there was no standard screw holes to screw them into. Is some kind of adapter required?

Recaro trans am

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My replacement from speakers had a larger magnet, and it was hitting the vent. I used a heat gun to mold them to the magnet just like 1adan sugested.

The rear speakers I keep the 6x9 size but what i did was remove the fiberglass form around the speaker and used it to build a custom box out of MDF. I built them as close to the speaker spec's as I could. They now sound amazing. I made a custom cross over with some caps I had laying around so my from speakers give me mostly highs and mids.
Oh and I added a custom 10" sub and box in the rear where the rear storage box was. The factory box was so deformed from water damage was usless anyway.

cser 84 Z28

dimond makes 4x6 also. i just heard you get better sound quality from a round

GreekItalianMan

My stock dash speakers will have to do for now (I don't have that much money) Right now I can only replace to the two 4x6's in the back. I don't even know if the subs are blown too. Here's a video clip of when I first got my car started. This was with the volume up all the way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOhjbtO6TNE

wakeboardr42393

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in the rear, they are 6x9" speakers, not 4x6...

1ADan

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that would be true if he didn't have the premium stereo package in his 'bird; those systems used a 4"x6" and a 5" in place of the 6"x9" the base stereo package used.

wakeboardr42393

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wait, my car has the "performance sound" stereo, and when i had it opened up i saw someone put in 6x9s in the rear. i just looked today and just noticed that there are adapter plates behind the 6x9s... so originally there were 2 speakers on each side? that explains the extra speaker connector on each side thats just laying there unused..... does the one connector only put out bass or something? dang if this is all right i might try to fab up something outta fiberglass... the kenwood 6x9s that are in there now distort alot when i turn up the volume. im not big into huge bass or anything, i just like to listedn to music loud and have it sound decent.

sorry for the wrong info! thanks for crrecting me

GreekItalianMan

The performance sound has 6 speakers. Two 4x6's in the dash. Two 4x6's in the rear and two 5 inch subs that are controlled thru a gain switch which activates an amp. If you still have the stock enclosure you should have like cotton and a "tuned" port tube. This pushes the bass out. Very good sound system even by todays standards. The only problem is no-one makes 5 inch subs anymore. The closest for example is tanband which make 6.5

jpearcy1

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A sony explode 4x6 will work great, but make sure you don't over load the RMS rating on the speaker. And before y'all bash me about them being sony I have four of them in my gmc with a 10" sub and they sound great. But if you don't like sony go to www.sonicelectronix.com and they have good selection of speakers, subs, head units and more for alot better prices than any other place I have seen. A 4X6 should fit front just double check mounting deep.

wakeboardr42393

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wow, thanks. i always thought the gain switch was for the (non working) power antenna or something related. so if i buy some small subs or something i can run them off of the "performance sound" stock headunit? sadly i do not have the stock enclosures there anymore.

GreekItalianMan

I doubt you'll be able to run different subs on the amp and headunit. Bose made it difficult for anyone to use different speakers. You can try though. If you don't have restrictions see if it works. I've heard that it doesn't. I personally don't like to change around wiring and stuff from stock but, if it's done already then you might as well finish it

IROCtheRoad

I've been able to find 1 company that makes 5.25 subs (JL or JBL....), but they are $150 a pair. Stupid expensive if you ask me.

I have been able to find a few 5.25 midwoofers that should work. I've never heard one used as a sub, just a 6.5 woofer, but it SHOULD sound just fine for a nice full sound
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...D=gtwbjlqym6bw

They are 8 ohm but could be wired to 4 ohm

IROCtheRoad

Oh, and make sure and check out the power/RMS rating of any 5.25 woofer. Most are very weak....

GreekItalianMan

Those look pretty close to the stock subs. Probably a good replacement too

KITT1983

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try boston acoustics

http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Mobile-Audio-C236.aspx

GreekItalianMan

I need some 4x6's but idk if the magnet will fit for the a/c duct on the driver side

KITT1983

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I used Boston Acoustics all around (4x6 Front and 6x9 Rear) in my car. They sound great with my Pioneer P-5000DVD.

4x6 http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SA-C263.aspx


6x9 http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SC95-P587.aspx

http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SR95-P627.aspx

GreekItalianMan

I like the boston acoustics, my dads 2012 chally has them. Just not sure the stock amp is going to work with them.

IROCtheRoad

I have Infinity 4x6, but you will have to use a spacer on the driver's side. I'm no audiophile, but they sound very nice.

K. E. Christy

I went with Alpine in the front & rear and 2-JL subs w/1000 watt amp. sound terrific. You can get Boston Acoustic or Infinity and won.t get hurt as well. God luck.

KITT1983

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i have a pioneer P5000dvd and use the amp unit on the back of it

Andrew James

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Probably buying an 1989 Formula Firebird tomorrow, because I blew my Bronco up and my Bronco has brand new 6.5 and 6.8 speakers. I don't know how many speakers a Firebird has but will these fit?

danziger

I had Polk 4x6s up front, but popped one. Soooo I replaced them with some Memphis Audio 4x6s. Both sets fit no problem and sound pretty good for what they are...

GreekItalianMan

Did you chop anything up? for the dash that is

ZZ3 Z28

I have a set aftermarket Pioneer 4x6's in the dash that fit perfectly in my '86Z. They are in a metal frame that attaches with 4 screws.

GreekItalianMan

Do you have the model #? If they are cheaper than the oem speakers I'll get those. As long as it fits and has good sound

KITT1983

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http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CFAQgggwAA#

GreekItalianMan

Nice speakers, is there a specific site you buy them from?

ZZ3 Z28

Are you lucky I have a folder of receipts of nearly every $ I've spent on my Camaro. I bought Pioneer TS 4602 4x6 speakers for the front dash on my '86Z at now defunct Circuit City for $69.97. I replaced the rear speakers at some point, too but those details are not on this particular receipt. I don't remember what the rear ones are and I must have done that at a different time. I'd have to take off the panel to get to them.

ZZ3 Z28

The rear speakers are Acoustic HS-892 Hz Shaper dual bass and tweeter with 20 oz. strontium magnet. I'm glad I looked at this because the cone is dry rotted. Ouch! So I guess it's a trip to the car stereo store for some new ones. Time to upgrade any way.

KITT1983

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any one that has a good deal and warrenty

GreekItalianMan

I'm lucky in everything but women. I'll shop around for the models suggested from you guys. I don't have the luxury of affording anything worthwhile atm. Jobs are hard to find in NYC.

ZZ3 Z28

I did make a trip to Best Buy to replace the rotted out rear spekers. I purchased Pioneer TS-6964R 3-way 6x9's ON SALE for $59.99. I installed them but can't listen to them yet 'cuz of various work going on with the car. They sounded pretty good in the store.

It stinks for jobs here in Illinois, too!

thecraze

Quite frankly, if you can afford it, rewire the sound. Put the 6X9s in the rear, and 4X6s in the front, then a sub in the trunk. Then you just have to deal with positive/negative wires and you know exactly where they go.

mantaguy

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Greek,you can still get the 4x6 from the dealer.I just went to my GM dealer and ordered a new set of 4x6 front speakers they are still available.I know you want to keep you car as original as possible.They are a little expensive $54.40 each.Part no.16033662 F-Speakers.

GreekItalianMan

Yes, thanks manta, I trust you, my subs are working beautifully, best money i ever spent on speakers. I'll ask for them as a Christmas present.

Syncity05

Has anyone put 6x9's in the front. If so, where did you put them. The 4x6's aren't powerful enough.

Syncity05

Where did you get the spacer and which Infinty model did you get.

1ADan

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6x9s wont fit anywhere up front without some work. you'd have to reinforce the doors and build them out to support, but by that point, it would just be better to get some kick panel enclosures and throw in a set of components. much better results.

Syncity05

Hey 1ADan, in regards to the kickplates, how deep is the mounting depth on them with power windows. I want to install the tweeters below but am not sure if they will fit.

Thanks
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...r-Tweeter.html

1ADan

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kick panel enclosures go in front of the doors and replace the plastic pieces that are currently installed on the car. the problem with trying to use the doors is that they are cardboard and not very rigid, along with the power window motor being right behind the front of the panel. Depending on the mid you're trying to use, the door panels need to be built out at least 3/4". However, if you don't build a rigid frame to the door itself, you will be losing speaker output thanks to some of the vibration being absorbed by the panel itself

JRobling

This is what I did