I was thinking about doing the following combo..
stock delco 4th gen cd player
infinity kappa (or similar) 4x6
and a 6" bazooka tube in the rear compartment..(i already have it in there and it sounds fine)

am i wasting my money buying sound quality speakers to use with a stock deck? will they even sound any better than new stock speakers?

the top 3 things im aiming for is..
#1 stock look
#2 cheapness
#3 sound quality

please give me your opinions... thank you

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17 from Wichita, KS (previously newbieZ28)
1988 Iroc-Z ZZ4 tpi, ttops, 50k miles on chassis (edelbrock tes, stock tpi) free mods etc coming soon after first 1/4 times!
1985 Z28 LB9 option [STOLEN!] Click here to see

http://thirdgen.bawx.org
K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple, Stupid.

 

Scrap the stock deck troop. There is WAY MUCH improvement when you install an aftermarket head unit. You can get a standard DIN unit with adapter kit and it will look just fine. Or you can get the 1.5 DIN units which are an exact fit for the stock size.

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92 Camaro RS LO3, 5-spd, T-tops
Mechanics:
Open Air Element w/K&N Filter, Flowmaster 3" Cat-back Exhaust, Z28 Grille w/aftmkt fog lamps
Electronics:
Alpine 8030 Alarm System, Valentine One Radar Detector (How did I ever drive without one?), Pioneer DEH 7450 Head Unit w/6-pack CD changer, Pioneer DEQ 7600 Sound Processor, 2 Kenwood KAC-90 Amps powering 2 12" Pro Red subs and 4 Infiniti speakers.
NEXT UP: SLP 1 3/4" Headers/Y-pipe, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch kit

 

Yes...definitely use a factory deck! Aftermarkets fit like crap, look like a video game, and the buttons are nearly impossible to use. Aside from speakers and amps, I don't think I've seen a single aftermarket automotive product that has ever been as good as a factory part.

Bazooka tubes do seem to sound pretty decent; I had a 10" amped one in my car for a while. They are overpriced, though. If you already have it and you're satisfied with it, keep it.

I would definitely think that the newer Delco decks certainly have enough power to make good front speakers a worthwhile investment. But if you're on a tight budget, and you look around enough, there are some upgraded Delco 4x6 speakers, with separate tweeters, that sound pretty decent. I have a pair from an '86 Buick LeSabre with the Concert Sound II option, and they sound much better than the normal ones.

 

"Bazooka tubes do seem to sound pretty decent; I had a 10" amped one in my car for a while. They are overpriced, though. If you already have it and you're satisfied with it, keep it."

its a six and half inch bazooka.. my g/f gave it to me so nice
also its running off my stock deck and it sounds fine..(thats how unchoosey i am about bass)
i used to have a system in my 85 z and look what happened to it (view sig)
i think im gonna find the cheapest sony amp and hook up to the tube.. then a pair of cheap 4" speakers for the front will do..



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17 from Wichita, KS (previously newbieZ28)
1988 Iroc-Z ZZ4 tpi, ttops, 50k miles on chassis (edelbrock tes, stock tpi) free mods etc coming soon after first 1/4 times!
1985 Z28 LB9 option [STOLEN!] Click here to see

http://thirdgen.bawx.org
K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple, Stupid.

 

btw my old deck was a $550 kenwood excelon mask... it fit like PURE ****.. even after HOURS of work..

 

I think the Kappa 4x6s are pretty good. Others have had problems though.

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There can be only one!!

 

Blaupunkt makes (or used to make) some pretty low-key stock-looking but good quality decks. MacIntosh has good head units and a very old fashioned look if you're into that.

 

btw I just saw your stolen pics. That's just straight hateful. What brought that on? I started to get a quick pulse just thinking about it. I'd go apes**t if that happened to either of mine.

 

It just depends on WHAT you do in those HOURS of work.





After I make a newer, tighter fitting trim plate it'll look even better. In the car it looks 100% better than in the pics because there's no flash bulb in my car lighting up the mechanical crap in the gap. This took me about 3 hours to install in my IROC. The same installation took me 2 days in my firebird because there is a lot less room in the firebird, and it was also the first time I had done the installation.



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wow those are some interesting pics. I too am interested to know what brought that on. I never thought Id see Blaupunkt and McIntosh in the same post either, yikes. I have an Alpine 7949 deck and ERA-G320 (graphic) EQ in my caddy and made a custom mounting plate for it and it looks really nice.. It just takes some time to get it right.

 

jim: good job... thats looking damn good.


now about my car..
i dont know why it happened..
i dont know who did it..
i dont remember pissing anyone off.. hell i dont even go to school.
i dont remember having any enemies of any kind..
but because of the writing on the car i assume the either got me mixed up or were just a bunch of little kids trying to scare somebody :\

this is to everyone that even has a deck..
get an alarm!

i currently have an alarm, a remote pager for when the alarm goes off, SEVERAL kill switches... and a few other things i do when i leave the car for a while



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17 from Wichita, KS (previously newbieZ28)
1988 Iroc-Z ZZ4 tpi, ttops, 50k miles on chassis (edelbrock tes, stock tpi) free mods etc coming soon after first 1/4 times!
1985 Z28 LB9 option [STOLEN!] Click here to see

http://thirdgen.bawx.org
K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple, Stupid.

 

Jim: what deck do you have? it looks like the X915.

I have the X811 and I mounted it flush as well, but took a different approach to get it in there.

A GM install kit that was adjustable: comes in two parts, an outer that mounts to the console, and an inner sleeve, in which the head units metal sleeve mounts.

I cut the outer sleeve along the bottom edge and screwed the inner sleeve to it flush with the outer sleeve. The cutting was to move the head unit down. Then I used a heatgun to gently move the plastic heating vents enough to clear the unit and mounted everything up. With a square of black vinyl to finish up the front, it looks like a beaut.

I really like that false panel idea BTW. That's kickass. Does it just lay there, or is it pressfit or have some provision to snap it in place?

 

Jza, that's a Kenwood Excelon PS907. It is the top of the line excelon deck from the first year. It's a pre amp-only deck with a zero-bit noise gate, blah blah blah.

The stock faceplate basically just falls into place. It's not held in by anything, but it doesn't go anywhere unless I try driving with it there. I've got a camaro face plate that I've got to drim down and assemble, but for now the old Pontiac one works fine.

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Yeah I could tell it was a 9 series from the lack of wiring in the back.