new to carburetors . . . please help
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new to carburetors . . . please help
hi, my car has been down for quite a while now, the mods and specs are in my sig, i was currently told by the shop where my car is at that the computer and wiring is messed up, so i will probably just get rid of the computer and the TPI system and go carb. but i don't have any clue what kind of intake or carb to get. i would like one that would by ideal for the setup i have, but again i don't have any idea what to look for. i'm asking for anyones help to point me in some direction in what kind of carb system i need. thank you
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Re: new to carburetors . . . please help
Originally posted by 92TPIZ28
i was currently told by the shop where my car is at that the computer and wiring is messed up...
i was currently told by the shop where my car is at that the computer and wiring is messed up...
You list no symptoms, so it's impossible to know if they're at all close. But, with the investment you have in TPI upgrades, it seems a shame to chuck it all.
If you insist, though, a Holley 650 double pumper 4150 model with choke, Weiand Stealth or Edelbrock RPM manifold, and a vacuum/mechanical advance HEI distributor will get the top end handled. You'll also need a 3-port adjustable fuel pressure reg (if you don't already have one that will go down to 6 psi). And misc. hoses, cables, wires, air cleaner, etc., and modify the intake mount bolt holes to fit your heads.
And never, ever move to an area that requires emissions inspection/testing (as if you aren't already violating federal law).
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Car: 1988 Firebird S/E
Engine: 406Ci Vortec SBC
Transmission: TH-350/3500stall
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Holley #4779 750cfm double pumper
Edelbrock Victor JR intake manifold #2975
MSD Billet Ready to run Vac Adv distributor. #8360 (no coil)
MSD ready to run billet distributor + MSD Blaster SS coil and coil wire kit #8474
This distributor is all you'll ever need as far as ignition power goes. features a fully adjustable advance curve.
Needs only a 12volt power source and a coil.
I recommend you set up the mechanical advance up for 14-18
degrees BTDC initial timing at idle (600rpm) advanceing to 32-36degrees BTDC by 3000/3200rpm mechanical advance.
Then adjust the vacuum advance canister to give you an additional 10-15degrees vacuum advance at hiway cruiseing speed. Plug the vacuum advance into the ported vacuum source on the carb.
The hows and whys are included with the distributor.
This set up will give you the SAME strong power band of your stealth ram EFI. Only in a simplier carburated form.
The carb's accelerator pump squirters and pump cam(s) may need minor tweeking but follow this set up and you'll have a very responsive carbed system.
Don't forget a good inline fuel filter and a adjustable low pressure fuel pressure regulator 7-9PSI at idle is good.
A drop base low profile 14x3" open element air cleaner assembly will finish it off.
www.holley.com
www.edelbrock.com
www.msdignition.com
that should keep ya busy for a while.
Edelbrock Victor JR intake manifold #2975
MSD Billet Ready to run Vac Adv distributor. #8360 (no coil)
MSD ready to run billet distributor + MSD Blaster SS coil and coil wire kit #8474
This distributor is all you'll ever need as far as ignition power goes. features a fully adjustable advance curve.
Needs only a 12volt power source and a coil.
I recommend you set up the mechanical advance up for 14-18
degrees BTDC initial timing at idle (600rpm) advanceing to 32-36degrees BTDC by 3000/3200rpm mechanical advance.
Then adjust the vacuum advance canister to give you an additional 10-15degrees vacuum advance at hiway cruiseing speed. Plug the vacuum advance into the ported vacuum source on the carb.
The hows and whys are included with the distributor.
This set up will give you the SAME strong power band of your stealth ram EFI. Only in a simplier carburated form.
The carb's accelerator pump squirters and pump cam(s) may need minor tweeking but follow this set up and you'll have a very responsive carbed system.
Don't forget a good inline fuel filter and a adjustable low pressure fuel pressure regulator 7-9PSI at idle is good.
A drop base low profile 14x3" open element air cleaner assembly will finish it off.
www.holley.com
www.edelbrock.com
www.msdignition.com
that should keep ya busy for a while.
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thanks alot for all that, that really helped out alot. i'm good friends with the owner of the shop where my car has been at for the past 6 months, he worked on it on his free time and finally came to the conclusion that my motor was never the problem, which makes me happy cause i just dropped that motor in a few months before things went whacky. i could get a new computer, but i'd rather go carb anyway. i just need to get these parts, at get them installed and BAM, i can finally drive my sweet sweet camaro, it's been so long, it really hurts to see it out of commission, especially for this long, but things are finally looking up as of now, thanks again for all your guys help. this is why i love this site!
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Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
You ought to warn a guy if the shop is run by a friend...
Most people give up on the computer controls much too quickly. Many have come to regret it (job change requires move to emissions-testing area, for instance).
Most people give up on the computer controls much too quickly. Many have come to regret it (job change requires move to emissions-testing area, for instance).
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hey i was wondering if the edelbrock victor jr intake manifold part #2975 is the best intake to get for my setup, i forgot to mention that i have a 4" cowl hood, so clearance isn't a problem. thanks
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that depends on what trans, converter and rear gears you have in the car. What cam are you running ?
The dual planes seem to be preferred for smaller cams, and stock converters with 3.55 gears or lower.
If you have a 3K or higher stall and 342 or higher gears the single plane will work better.
You can always place a call to Edelbrock tech and ask which intake they suggest, be prepared to have all your car info.
The dual planes seem to be preferred for smaller cams, and stock converters with 3.55 gears or lower.
If you have a 3K or higher stall and 342 or higher gears the single plane will work better.
You can always place a call to Edelbrock tech and ask which intake they suggest, be prepared to have all your car info.
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my cam specs are in my sig, i have a manual 5 speed, the t-5, with a centerforce dual friction plate clutch and the stock G92 rearend which i believe is 3.42
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by F-BIRD'88
[B]Holley #4779 750cfm double pumper
Edelbrock Victor JR intake manifold #2975
MSD Billet Ready to run Vac Adv distributor. #8360
MSD Blaster SS coil and coil wire kit #8474
aren't the MSD billet #8360 and MSD blaster the same part? just one's better than the other? and is it worth the extra money for the Blaster SS? thanks
[B]Holley #4779 750cfm double pumper
Edelbrock Victor JR intake manifold #2975
MSD Billet Ready to run Vac Adv distributor. #8360
MSD Blaster SS coil and coil wire kit #8474
aren't the MSD billet #8360 and MSD blaster the same part? just one's better than the other? and is it worth the extra money for the Blaster SS? thanks
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A victor Jr manifold will have a stronger upper rpm (peak horsepower) than the performer RPM dual plane. The Performer RPM will have a stronger low/ midrange.
If you were to dyno your motor and compare each manifold, the crossover point in their respective power bands would be at about 4800rpm.
The difference in top end power on your motor will be about 5 to 15 horsepower.
Which one will get you down the quarter mile the fastest is going to be a 50/50 toss up.
If you perfer a Performer RPM manifold, go for it, they work well.
The MSD 8360 is a complete ready to run hi-per distributor that only needs a coil and 12v's to operate.
A Blaster SS or a Blaster II coil will work well with this distributor.
The 8360 Distributor + blaster SS coil + coil wire are available as a complete kit MSD #8474
If you were to dyno your motor and compare each manifold, the crossover point in their respective power bands would be at about 4800rpm.
The difference in top end power on your motor will be about 5 to 15 horsepower.
Which one will get you down the quarter mile the fastest is going to be a 50/50 toss up.
If you perfer a Performer RPM manifold, go for it, they work well.
The MSD 8360 is a complete ready to run hi-per distributor that only needs a coil and 12v's to operate.
A Blaster SS or a Blaster II coil will work well with this distributor.
The 8360 Distributor + blaster SS coil + coil wire are available as a complete kit MSD #8474
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