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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Quick question - ZZ4 intake manifold and LG4

Will the ZZ4 intake manifold pretty much bolt onto an LG4 that's otherwise stock? Or does it require that some things need to be remove/changed other than the stock manifold?

I have an opportunity to get this intake manifold for cheap and that's why I am asking.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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There are some differences on center bolted valvecover heads and perimeter bolted, so if you have the stock 84 heads, make sure it's the manifold is for a -86 down and not 87- up. Other than that it might work, but I was under the impression that the ZZ4 was a new intake made for the new heads.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Chevy says it's compatible with any block up to 1986, so I'm not worried about that. I was wondering if there were any things that would need to modified in order to bolt it right onto the engine (e.g. EGR, waterneck, ect.).
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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It bolts right up. It's got the 86-back pattern.

I have one on my 83 car right now, with 69-70 model heads on it.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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ZZ4 intake is for the older style heads, has EGR provision and is pretty much an Edelbrock Performer EGR equivalent.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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The ZZ4 is a much better intake than the Performer.... I have one of those too, had them sitting side by side to compare; also a Perf RPM. The Performer isn't much better than what came on these cars.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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It's a decent intake, and for emmisions it's good, but the RPM is a much better piece. GMPP intakes are made by Edelbrock. I've used all three (and then some), and I'm sticking with the RPM for dual plane apps. I couldn't tell the difference between the ZZ4 and the Performer, but the Weiand Stealth amd RPM both worked better. Never had a stock LG4 intake so I'll have to take your word on that one.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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I also have one of these (ZZ4 intakes) on my car at the moment...bone stock as far as whatever bolts to the intake and around it.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Ok, thanks guys.

Does the Performer RPM offer enough of a performance increase over ZZ4 intake to consider buying it instead?

I'm aware that the car is stock and it probably won't make too much of a difference either way, but I plan to do some extensive work later on down the line.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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It's worth about 20 HP on a stock ZZ4, and breathes better above 5500. More cam will make even more. No EGR, so if emmisions are a concern, it won't pass.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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No emissions, but I don't know if I want to get rid of the EGR if it is too much of a hassel.

My car's engine isn't, and probably never will be, comparable to a ZZ4 either.

I think for now I will just stick with the ZZ4 intake and if I feel the need to upgrade later on then I'll do it then.

Thanks for all your help.
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