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Will the GM L-88 drop base air cleaner give me more clearance then the K&N drop base? Right now I have a performer manifold and wanted to upgrade to a performer rpm. I read somewhere a while back, that the rpm manifold, is taller then the performer. Right now I have trouble shutting my hood and didn't want to make things worse.
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Just a basic chrome 14x3 dropbase thats found in the 'chrome' section of any parts store should work just fine. Thats what I use, and my intake is as tall as a RPM manifold.
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Re: air cleaner
Originally posted by blue_tacos
Will the GM L-88 drop base air cleaner give me more clearance then the K&N drop base? Right now I have a performer manifold and wanted to upgrade to a performer rpm. I read somewhere a while back, that the rpm manifold, is taller then the performer. Right now I have trouble shutting my hood and didn't want to make things worse.
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Will the GM L-88 drop base air cleaner give me more clearance then the K&N drop base? Right now I have a performer manifold and wanted to upgrade to a performer rpm. I read somewhere a while back, that the rpm manifold, is taller then the performer. Right now I have trouble shutting my hood and didn't want to make things worse.
Thanks
Unfortunately, even Edelbrock claims on the boxes that both will work properly on all 5 3/8" 4 barrel carbs, but one needs a base spacer to get it to clear all the paraphenelia on their Performer carbs.
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IIRC, you might have to mod the L-88 in order to mount it. You might try a search for more info if you're still interested in that route.
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another thing is the carb on it.. I have the performer intake on one of mine with a holley carb, and a standard drop base would not fit around the banjo fuel fitting... soo. i had to look around intil i found one with a large enough diameter drop base to fit... and yes.. i have problems closeing my hood.. one of those gentle things now.. Next is a 4 inch cowl hood so i can get a real air cleaner on there lol
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Thanks, I think the only thing I'm going to be able to do is buy a cowl hood. Right now when I shut the hood it hits the air cleaner barely. I think the motor mounts that I got might have raised it up a bit.
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My hood wouldn't close with a 14 x 3, so I dropped to a 14 x 2 1/2 and all's well--I'll probably eventually try a K&N filter lid to aid flow a bit.
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My 14" filter housing hits the padding on the bottom of the hood.. you can see the indent on it now... but yea.. a cowl hood is the way to go if you want a decent size filter on it.. I have a 2.5 on mine and it is so so close to not fitting lol
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I just put a 350 in, with an Edelbrock 1405 and a Performer RPM, and I can get nothing to fit! I tried 3 or 4 different drop-base air cleaners, and I just managed to squish the filter - without even putting a lid on yet (I had the stud removed to make sure I didn't poke a hole). Of course I installed new poly mounts in there - but I can get nothing to fit under my stock 1992 hood. Time for the Sawzall!
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did you try a 2 1/8th filter.. mr gasket has them.. mine actually came with the drop base air filter assembly i am using.. although i ditched that filter once i found out i couls use a normal sized 2 1/4 The Performer RPM.. is that a little taller than the performer? if so then you are SOL without some hood cutting lol. I myself have cut my spare hood and have a nice carbon fiber cowl that is bonding to it as I type..
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my airclear stock leaves an indent in the padding on the hood, does K&N have filters that fit the stock carb airbox? TGO Supporter
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Originally posted by Firebreed
my airclear stock leaves an indent in the padding on the hood, does K&N have filters that fit the stock carb airbox?
my airclear stock leaves an indent in the padding on the hood, does K&N have filters that fit the stock carb airbox? Supreme Member
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the stock aircleaner actually sits into that stuff... supposed to i guess. ever car i have ever seen has it lol. no biggy really.. But if you ever get a taller intake or want a larger air claner time to get the dremel, cut wheel, or sawz all out. (I have cut things with the dremel.. talk about a long day... the cut wheel is my favorite.. nice fast, and no ragged bits.
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Can't use the 2 1/8" filter - restricts too much. The drop-based housings I tried all had at least a 1 3/4 drop - which would leave only 3/8 of airflow space. Edelbrock even says 2 inch filter too small for the carb. I'll cut her open!
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Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
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Yep that i knew.. lol. Was jsut throwing out them ideas but yea. the only way to get a carb to set on on of those intakes and have any actual filter room is to cut a hole.
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I also tried everything. I have a Holley 750cfm sitting on a 4" intake and I've only got 1" clearance at the front of the carb.
I tried the smallest cleaner I could find from Mr.Gasket with a 1" element but it was too restrictive. Then I bought the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 1000cfm with a reusable foam filter and had to trim-out an 1" off the base so it would fit under the hood. I then had to remove the hood insulation because it was chocking the engine but then the heat from my hedders melted the foam filter into my carb.
I didn't want to cut open the hood for a cowl induction, I like the stock appearance, so I bought a used Ram-Air assembly from a TPI Camaro, dropped 2 K&N filters in it, built a custom air box to sit on the carb and connected the two with a 3" diameter hose. So now I've got fresh cool air coming in from in front of the rad and lots of horsepower. Problem solved!
I tried the smallest cleaner I could find from Mr.Gasket with a 1" element but it was too restrictive. Then I bought the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 1000cfm with a reusable foam filter and had to trim-out an 1" off the base so it would fit under the hood. I then had to remove the hood insulation because it was chocking the engine but then the heat from my hedders melted the foam filter into my carb.
I didn't want to cut open the hood for a cowl induction, I like the stock appearance, so I bought a used Ram-Air assembly from a TPI Camaro, dropped 2 K&N filters in it, built a custom air box to sit on the carb and connected the two with a 3" diameter hose. So now I've got fresh cool air coming in from in front of the rad and lots of horsepower. Problem solved!
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The Holley Hi-Tec also might have been a possibility.
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Holley Hi-Tec: Net height from carburator flange is still 3 1/4" on this thing - I'd think that would make it higher than a drop-base. It also rings up at $235 - almost as much as a new hood!
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