Im using a 750 Holley VS with a electric choke. The car starts without problems as long as the choke is activated ( Press Pedal once to the Floor) Is there any way I could have a solenoid set the choke for me?
Also I have a t56
I know fuel injection with a automatic is the way to go for a remote start but is it possible with what I have?
To top it off I will Open up my cell Phone and solder a couple of wires to the send button. Then will put a connector into the case of the Phone so it can easily be plugged in to the car. When My electric fan relay comes on it will close another Relay and close the send button. I will have my home phone dialed in the phone. When the car starts it will heat up and when its nice and toasty Ill get a call in the house.

 

It's possible to mount an actuator on the throttle linkage to pump the gas before starting, either with the factory alarm disarm output of the alarm or an extra channel with a validity setting. The carb isn't the problem, it's the fact that you have a manual tranny. I can't even begin to tell you how dangerous it is. About a month ago, at a car dealership that I install electronics at, a car in the service lot, with a remote start installed somewhere else, started while in gear and crashed into the car in front of it. I've heard countless stories about peoples car's remote starting while in gear and running into people. If you disconnect the battery on a car with a remote starter, then reconnect it, it remote starts. There's just too many ways to have a bad accident. I have a python alarm and remote start in my IROC, and when the 700r4 goes out, and a T-56 goes in it's place, the relay pack for the remote start is getting unplugged. Neither I nor the company I work for will install a remote starter in a manual car, no matter how much the customer wants to pay because of the insurance liability. Sorry about the lecture, but it's really not worth the risk. HTH

 

wouldnt a good neutral switch cure the manual tranny problem
A sensor could be built to detect when the car was in neutral. to back it up have a sensor on the driveline. If the car remote starts and the driveline starts to turn have a circut kill the power to the Hei?

 

lol..a sensor could be built how? To even be theoratically possible you'd have to pull the tranny and open it up. Then I'm not sure where in the linkage you would have to put such a switch so the circuit was closed, where you'd find a switch that would live inside the tranny...where you'd mount it too..etc, etc, etc.

If you think thats worth it...you're nuts. Just be a man and start your car yourself

 

hmmm....

I dont think you would have to open up the tranny just use the Output for the speedometer.

 

The tires on my car are 26 inches tall.
Rear end gears are 4.10

Circumference = 81.64 inches

Divide circumference By 4.10= 19.92 inches


The farthest the car could move is 19 inches. this is if the Speedometer output does one pulse per transmission output revolution. Does anybody know how many times A t56 Speedometer Sensor pulses per revolution?

 

No, Most auto starters will work on either they just say no only because they dont want to be liable for damaged caused because someone left thier car in gear, or a mishap were your car got started by someone elses remote. I just installed my autostarter last night and dident do all the initiation BS like put it in park then drive yatta yatta and it started. I also have a holley carb and was thinking of using the AC idle compensator (mind you I dont have that on my car) but it is avalible for holleys. You would need to run the idle compensator power off the the assesory wire on the auto starter and that would do the trick. Also my starter has a tach controll were it spins the car until the engine reaches a certian RPM, the engine might just start if turnned long enough.
BTW which acc wire did you tap into the 10 guage orange or the 18? Im not gettting the voltage I should from either so my indicator light doesent work.
SSC


Edit: I found the correct wire although it still doesent show voltage were the instructions say it should but it works so I'm happy.

 

The AC idle solenoid might work, but an actuator with a longer throw, working off a 2nd channel output, so you can just give it a few pumps before you remote start would be best. As for the VSS signal idea, 19 inches is enough to run over someones leg or smack the car in front out you. The remote starter will stop cranking after a fraction of a second anyway because the tach signal won't be strong enough because the motor won't actually run. I've seen a car remote start in gear, it lurches forward a few feet, it doesn't start up and drive away. The only way to do it that's even close to being safe is using a latching relay system where you have to remote start the car while you're in it, get out and close the door, shut off the remote start, and as long as the door doesn't get opened, it will remote start again. Once you've installed a remote starter, you have to learn the tach signal, and program the features and you're good to go. Oh, and unless you're using something with external relays, like something by DEI or Clifford, it's going to burn up in about 2 years and start going crazy.

 

Big has some valid points. Now that Ive used the starter in a typical driving situation. I know that most standard tranny eq cars and trucks wont start in gear and probably would just lerch forward a couple inches at most. As far as the tach learn mode, its kinda funkey. My typical idle is 700rpm and when I set the tach mode the car was cold and off choke so idle was 400. According to the instructions in the packet, the car should go into over rev protection if set at 400 and then jumps to 700 but it doesent shut down. I think a remote starter probably isnt the best product for a carbed car especially with cold starts but if you live were it gets really freaking cold it works great when you need to run into a store for an hour, so you can just push the button when you get in line and let the car warm up again.
SSC

 

As far as a stock computer contolled carb, how hard would it be to get a remote starter to work. What would have to be done to get the choke to work or is it possible?

Thanks

Ben

 

Computer controlled carb is the same way--You have to push the throttle open to 'set' the choke. A manual car can start in gear if it's in 1st gear and has a deep enough ratio. I've seen it done before. If you put it in 4th or 5th, no way would it start--but it could still lurch forward. How about using the E-brake. Then put a switch on the E-brake so that it must be depressed for it to try and start. I've never seen a holley carbed car start right up and run on a really cold morning--to me that presents a problem. The holley choke system doesn't work as well as a q-jet. For one thing, it has no pull-off.

 

I tested this mourning to see the amount of pressure needed to set the choke. On my truck camaro and firebird 3 tests 2 identical carbs and one larger carb. All the resluts are the same it takes only a slight push to set the choke. I set the choke externally by pushing the throttle linkage probably 3 sentimeters so im thinking the ac idle compensator would work, at least on my carbs. Now If I can only find one locally to test it out.
SSC

 

I have to admitt you guys are right, If the car started and moved 19 inches thats still to far for saftey. Im going to try it today But I think I can start the car easily in 1st or second gear because of the 4.10 gears in the rear.
Good Idea SSC, Thanks

 

So does anyone know how this could be done on a stock style computer controlled quadrajet?

Thanks

Ben

 

momar, you have to use an actuator, or a factory idle solenoid to push the throttle before you start it. If the remote start unit has a second channel validity output, it can be used to pump the throttle manually. The factory alarm disarm output might work, but you won't know for sure if it stays on long enough to pump the gas. If you're hitting the second channel button, you know for sure how much your pumping the gas. The toughest part is getting or making a bracket that will position the actuator properly. If you have a shop do it, make sure it's a reputable shop, or you know them personally because it's something that takes time to do right. Some shops won't even do it because of the hassle. Let me know if you need a wiring diagram. It sucks that the cars that really need the warm up time are the most difficult to put remote starters in.