badjuju342

If you have had some thing for sale in the classifieds on TGO and received a reply from a scammer wanting to send you a "cheque" , especially for one way over the amount you asking for an item , please post their email address here. www.419legal.org wants to do something about this so they will not rip off a fellow TGO member. These email scammers usually have some of these characteristics: they type in all caps, they want to send a cheque from a client who owes them money, they do not know the item you are selling,they are located overseas. While an email is occaisionally legitimate, 95% of them are NOT. Victims are forced to pay banks back , face criminal charges for cashing a fraudulent check among other things . Please do your part by posting any email addresses by a suspicious reply to your classified ad in this thread . Let's stop these scammers dead in their tracks and make TGO classifieds a place that's not welcome to them.
thanks,
Badjuju342

Wolf75

I was contacted by a scammer. Name was Alfred Smith , his e-mail was alfredsmith_112@fastermail.com. He sent me a bogus check after seeing my ad here this summer.

badjuju342

Thanks , he's on the list now.

brutalform

lynda brown@mail.com I played along. Im handing the check over to the state police when it , (or if it), arrives.

87tpi

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Sarahparkerss@yahoo.com

badjuju342

duly noted, gents.

ryans

heres another alfredmoore@outgun.com

badjuju342

I have now linked this to the above website ,hopefully this will help move things along.

badjuju342

Here's a website that you can turn the info you have received from the cheque scammers over to the U.S. Secret Service ( which is the law enforcement body that investigates this.) :

http://www.secretservice.gov/faq.shtml#crimes

brutalform

Thanks for the info. I already sent the Secret Service my info. Hopefully they will contact me....Thanks again.

badjuju342

Thanks to everyone for posting. I don't understand why they have picked TGO for this nonsense . I do want to state for the record that none of my actions are racially motivated and if yours are , ( I'm NOT accusing anyone of this) you're doing this for the wrong reason. I am white , my g/f is black so I'm definitely NOT racist. It's strange that the majority of "cheque" scammers are based in Africa , nobody can explain this. Russia seems to be second but we're starting to see more of this happening there. Above all else , do NOT cash that check and send them the excess! It can take up to two weeks for the bank to figure out that the check is not valid and you CAN face criminal charges and severe fines.I hate to sound like a broken record but I can not stress this enough.

socal85tam

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Teresa Gibson and James David
Send me emails as soon as I post something on the classifieds secction, this is their email:
AM INTERESTED IN PURCHASING YOUR ITEM IF IS STILL AVAILABLEFOR SALE LET ME KNOW and the price AND IF CERTIFIED CASHIER'S CHEQUE IS OKAY FOR PAYMENT. ABOUT THE SHIPPING I HAVE A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING FOR ME JUST LET ME KNOW THE PRESENT CONDITION AND I WILL LIKE TO VIEW IT'S PICS.

Be aware.

brutalform

That seems to be the classic phrase. I think there should be a stickey in the classified board. These scumbags got some *****....

85_ZED28

i hope they stop these morons

heres another one:

hammyx24c@yahoo.com

Grim Reaper

It's not just TGO. It's the entire internet.

I just saw a "investigative reporting" show on TV today that showed some poor girl who was offered $22,000 for her 2000 Saturn and requested to direct $14,000 to the shipping company.

She waited 30 days for the cheque (sorry, I'm Canadian), and was confident that the cheque was good. Only to be nailed 90 days later.

The report said what these guys are doing, is altering legitmate cheques from a third party (usually a company cheque from an innocent party) made out in a small amount. Then, altering the payee and amount so the cheque WILL PASS the clearing house. But, when the cheque is finally sent back to the original company that issued the cheque, they dispute the cheque as "altered" and THEN the cheque is cancelled and eventually nails the person who cashed it 90 days later.

But that is how the cheque actually clears (initially) and why it's not outright rejected until 60-90 days later.

These crooks will not stop until they are eventually caught and sent to jail. Regrettably, depending on their original country where they are doing this, they may not even get jail time.

But they are all over the Internet looking for people selling things.

Scorpner

iTrader: (4)

I had the same phrase as above from a posting on this site. I wish I had read this earlier because I wasted time taking pictures for the scum. Here's thier email replies:

From: "kathy scott" <kathymerchandise@fastermail.com>
To: extratrash@comcast.net
Subject: '86 Berlinetta parts
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:13:36 +0000


AM INTERESTED IN PURCHASING YOUR '86 Berlinetta parts,IF IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR SALE LET ME KNOW THE LAST PRICE AND IF CERTIFIED CASHIER'S CHEQUE IS OKAY FOR PAYMENT. ABOUT THE SHIPPING I HAVE A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING FOR ME JUST LET ME KNOW THE PRESENT CONDITION AND I WILL LIKE TO VIEW IT'S PICS. THANKS,WAITING TO READ FROM YOU KATHY -- __

From: "kathy scott" <kathymerchandise@fastermail.com>

To: extratrash@comcast.net
Subject: Re: '86 Berlinetta parts
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:03:27 +0000


Thanks for your mail,pls let me know the price and i have already view the pics and in other to fasten this transaction i will want you to also get back to me with the full information you will use in recieving the cheque such as the full name the cheque will be drawn to,the full address where you can recieve the cheque,your office,home and cell phone number for fast communication,all this information are needed urgently so that i can forward it to my associate to send down the cheque payment to you this week. Thanks and waiting to read from you. kathy






From: "kathy scott" <kathymerchandise@fastermail.com>
To: extratrash@comcast.net
Subject: Re: '86 Berlinetta parts
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:03:41 +0000


Thanks for your mail,pls let me know the price and i have already view the pics and in other to fasten this transaction i will want you to also get back to me with the full information you will use in recieving the cheque such as the full name the cheque will be drawn to,the full address where you can recieve the cheque,your office,home and cell phone number for fast communication,all this information are needed urgently so that i can forward it to my associate to send down the cheque payment to you this week.Thanks and waiting to read from you.kathy

Above I actually sent two sets of pictures and you can tell how fake it is. Especially when everything but my parts were in caps.

85_ZED28

here is another one:

ws_101@dbzmail.com

conlinj

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joeb197232@yahoo.com is another one Joe Broddy is the name

conlinj

iTrader: (3)

janetscott@inbox.lv is another

conlinj

iTrader: (3)

Go me! Anyone else should do this too, if the person used a yahoo or hotmail email forward the email with all headers too abuse@yahoo.com or abuse@hotmail.com, whatever domain their using.

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

In this particular case, we have taken appropriate action against the
Yahoo! account in question, as per our Terms of Service (TOS). For
further details about the Yahoo! TOS, you can visit:

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Please know that Yahoo! is unable to disclose the action taken on
another user's account with a third party. We are not able to make
exceptions to this rule.

badjuju342

I saw this today, LOL!
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242398

badjuju342

Please do be sure to post The Email address ,NOT just the content of the email.

85_ZED28

gordonpapps15@yahoo.co.uk

gonzo1028

Ali Ahmed [aliahmed65@mail2world.com]

badjuju342

Keep 'em coming , law enforcement is aware of this thread.

85_ZED28

terrymoore@doramail.com

office2all@jumpy.it

socal85tam

iTrader: (4)

I received e-mail from this guy too:

Ali Ahmed <aliahmed1965@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Thirdgen sub box, and other stuff. Cheap
Date: Wed 12/08/04 08:39 AM
Hi,
intrstd in d above item.Let me knw d cost & prsnt condition & a pic of it will be apprciatd.Mode of paymnt 'll be by cahsier's check.Thanks and located in canada.
hear frm u soon.ali

red87iroc

Hey, I got a scammer email today from

lyndabrown@mail.com

Just so everyone else knows about her.

RED396

henrydavidlg@yahoo.com is yet another one.

This sucks because we can't do anything about it but warn people. The Nigerian Gov. will not let the FBI handle it. I just got off the phone with an officer and that is what he said to me. I can't believe this, they can basically screw us and we can't do anything about it.

RED396

HERE ARE SOME INTERESTING LINKS

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~chrish/scam-aa.htm

http://www.butlerwebs.com/classifiedads/warning.htm

http://www.britisharts.co.uk/artistsbeware.htm

smokin92z4

heres what they told me i posted make me any offer for these modules im thinking 10-20 dollars................ there email is
kathyright@myway.com

thanks greg

Thanks for the early response ,and i want you to know that business involve trust and i believe you cannot sell me a key module/airbag module that is not in good condition despite the fact that we are dealing on line and i have contacted my business associate in the US who is going to issue you a check of $3,580 as i am on a business seminar out of states.All I would want you to do is to deduct $400 for the key module/airbag module and send the balance funds to the shipping company who will take care of the shipment of the key module/airbag module. The funds should be sent to the shipper's via WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER upon receipt of payments.The shipping company would also be responsible for the signing of the titles and all other relevant documents,if all these is understood and acceptable,I would need your full contact address and the name to which the check would be payable to and also your phone # for better communication. I await your response.
Best Regards.
Kathy.

SLPhawk95

"keneth wheeler" kenethwheeler@graffiti.net Typical scammer routine, want to over pay me then I send the extra to his shipper because he owes him money. Yeah right.

badjuju342

Haven't checked in a while but I'll pass this info along. As a secondary thought , you might want to let these dirtbags know we are aware of their little game and www.thirdgen.org is no longer a safe haven to ply their trade , heck even give'em a link to this thread. They'll get the hint , I'm sure.

TunedportROC

I just got that one 2, heard bout that email and I wont respond

gixxer92

AM INTERESTED IN PURCHASING YOUR New Eibach Pro-Kit,IF IS STILL AVAILABLEFOR SALE LET ME KNOW THE LAST PRICE AND IF CERTIFIED CASHIER'S CHEQUE IS OKAY FOR PAYMENT. ABOUT THE SHIPPING I HAVE A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING FOR ME JUST LET ME KNOW THE PRESENT CONDITION AND I WILL LIKE TO VIEW IT'S PICS.
THANKS,WAITING TO READ FROM YOU
LYNDA
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email - lynda brown [lyndabrown@mail.com]

My reply back was not a very intelligent e-mail, I used many adverbs and adjectives to describe what kind of scum-bag they were.

badjuju342

I found out this interesting bit of news: There is a ring of scammers sending out fake U.S Postal Service money orders as payments. I wish to inform you that it is a felony to be in posession of these and you can face felony charges. It is considered to be the same as posessing counterfeit money. If you get one of these , DESTROY IT IMMEDIATELY!

sixxgun

iTrader: (3)

lyndabrown@mail.com

AM INTERESTED IN PURCHASING YOUR 92 B4C 1LE camaro,IF IS STILL
AVAILABLE FOR SALE LET ME KNOW THE LAST PRICE AND IF CERTIFIED CASHIER'S
CHEQUE IS OKAY FOR PAYMENT. ABOUT THE SHIPPING I HAVE A SHIPPING
COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING FOR ME JUST LET ME KNOW THE PRESENT
CONDITION AND I WILL LIKE TO VIEW IT'S PICS.
THANKS,WAITING TO READ FROM YOU

badjuju342

Everyone on the list is getting this email:
You replied to several ads on www.thirdgen.org wanting to send a cashier's check over the amount for items/cars for sale and the difference sent back to you. We are aware this is a scam and your email address is on a list so everyone who is a member there is aware of your scam. We have also notified law enforcement officials of your emails including overseas law enforcement agencies. While your emails are made from internet cafes to conceal your identity, nobody on www.thirdgen.org is going to fall for your game anymore. Find someplace else to try your lies, tricks and thievery on innocent, unsuspecting people. Changing your email address and name is NOT going to help you, either. The first email you send out with the cheque scam after changing your name/email adddress will be posted very clearly for all to see. You are nothing more than common trash. Once again , do not answer any more ads on www.thirdgen.org, it is no longer a safe haven for you to rip people off. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ,THIEF.

Thundering Z03

Not sure if I'm tryin to be scammed or not, but this buyer is wanting to proceed with payment, and hasn't even seen the car. Just wants to know how much to send. Sounded kinda scammy to me. Anyone heard of this one before? The caps is kinda what got me thinking. That and the fact that when buying a car, I'm gonna look at it in person. Let me know what you guys think.

Subj: URGENT....
Date: 1/6/2005 2:57:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: r_m2000@uymail.com
To: TURNEY21@cs.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information


HELLO,
THE PICS IS OK TO ME, LET ME KNOW THE LAST PRICE YOU ARE SELLING IT TO ME ,
SO I CAN PROCEED FOR PAYMENT.HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU .
REGARDS
RICH....

badjuju342

The phrase "Let me know the last price you are selling it to me for" is a definite scammer phrase. Ignore him or tell you will ONLY accept cash for payment not cashier's checks.

Thundering Z03

Get aload of this joker. I'm listing both addresses,...so you can make a note of them. Is there anyone out there legit anymore?

Subj: Camaro RS Z03 Heritage
Date: 1/8/2005 2:13:38 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: r_james501@yahoo.com
To: turney21@cs.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information


Dear Owner,
I'm mr Richard, i saw you advert from internet. and i'm in love with your camaro rs z03, . i want you to get back to me with the last price. also i will like to inform you that i'm paying by cashier check drawn in u.s.a.
Awating to hear from you ASAP.
Regard.
Rich.

Subj: 1987 Trans
Date: 1/8/2005 2:17:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: r_james501@yahoo.com
To: turney21@cs.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information


Dear Owner,
I'm mr Richard, i saw you advert from internet. and i'm in love with your 1987 Trans. i want you to get back to me with the last price. also i will like to inform you that i'm paying by cashier check drawn in u.s.a.
Awating to hear from you ASAP.
Regard.
Rich.

Subj: 1991 Camaro Z28
Date: 1/8/2005 2:19:25 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: r_james501@yahoo.com
To: turney21@cs.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information


Dear Owner,
I'm mr Richard, i saw you advert from internet. and i'm in love with your 1991 camaro z28. i want you to get back to me with the last price. also i will like to inform you that i'm paying by cashier check drawn in u.s.a.
Awating to hear from you ASAP.
Regard.
Rich.

The craziest part is,......I've only got the RS for sale,...whos cars the others belong to is beyond me.

The other address he sent one from was: r_m2000@uymail.com

badjuju342

Sent emails to both addresses , Thundering. The last one has been deactivated. You can contact abuse@yahoo.com , forward his reply and explain what's going on . Yahoo is very good at shutting down spammer /scammer accounts.

DA BRONX

alfredmoore@outgun.com

subsonic9

19 Awburn Road
Hyde
Cheshire
SK14 3QQ
United Kingdom.

I received this when asking where I would be shipping to. Is this legit? The address that is.

badjuju342

Probably just a pick up point , my guess is it's bogus. Incendentally , what part of So.IL ya in? I grew up in Marion and Carbondale

subsonic9

Murphysboro, Small world

Token

DA BRONX

These scamers,all have the same story.

badjuju342

Ricky got the email again. I know what my five fingers would like to say to his face. By the way , abuse@yahoo.com would love to get the full headers of a scammer using a yahoo.com account's email reply and shut them down.click on full headers, copy , compose to abuse@yahoo.com then paste . Blammo! One scammer email account shut down! It will cause them a minor inconveinience at the least , or make them lose their contacts at best.

Drone

eh does this sound like a scam???

ben_sherman005@yahoo.fr

Hello,my name is BEN SHERMAN I am very much interested in purchasing(92 RS v8 Automatic )from you.I have gone through your site and i am okay with the description,i am willing to pay the exact amount you want it sold ($900)for him as long as you can assure me that you will hold the(92 RS v8 Automatic )till you receive payment from me for them.I am located in Oklahoma but i am presently in Europe on a visit.Concerning payment and shipping, I will like you to understand that i recently tried purchasing some CARS from a AUTO DEALER in Oklahoma and i have already payed ($3000) in advance, but due to my busy schedule i was unable to pick up the CAR on time. I am going to instruct the DEALER to issue you a check for that amount and what i will like you to do is to take your amount and then send the balance over to! ! my shipper who will use the balance to transport himself over to your place for the pick up and also take care of the shipping. I am offer ing you ($100) in addition to the cost of your 92 RS v8 Automatic for an inconvenience this might cause you. If this is okay by you please get back to me with your full contact info:
Full name to be issued on the check,
Address,
city,
state,
zip code,
Phone #,
and your telephone number i can reach you on,so that payment can be made out to you Get back to me ASAP and will want this transaction done BASED ON RUST,i.e CAN I COUNT ON YOU FOR MY SHIPPER'S funds which is required to be transfer to him as soon as you receive the check..
Best Regards
BEN SHERMAN


i sent him my info but i think ill just burn anything he sends me :|