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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I am giving some thought to selling my toy. If so what could I get?
1989 RS convertible P/W, P/L,A/C tilt wheel(grant)
Engine: 2002 LS1 aprox. 40,000 miles now. Comp cam,vavle springs and push rods. LS6 intake, ported TB and exhaust manifolds. Edelbrock 3" exhaust Dyno tune by Vette Doctors.
Trans: T56 6 speed Hurst shifter ZO6 clutch
Rear: SLP take out Torsen posi 3.73 gears, drum brakes.
Susp; Kenny Brown sub frames, edelbrock tower brace, TDS Wonder bar front end rebuilt 200mi ago with Monroe strut mounts KYB struts, Spohn Tube/poly A arms. all new steering gear Hodgkiss tie rod ajusters.poly sway bar links all clean and painted. Spohn cross member and toqure arm ajust. poly mount, spohn LCAs and padhard rod both poly.
Brakes: stock front rebuilt 200mi ago new roters. berings calipers (painted red) Hawks pads.
Interior: Rug , seats redone, door panels replaced 2 yrs ago.
Sound: Pioneer DEH-P47DH CD player, Pioneer speakers 3mo. old
Body: easy-on top 3 wks old by moonlighting coachworks.
Paint: Gran Sport blue with silver stripes. $6000.00 (with a deal) by Body Creations. 4 mo. ago
Fuel: New tank with walbro 255 in tank pump
Wheels: stock (sleeper) 15" RS with 235/60 BF goodrich
This car has been showed twice. First place at third gen nats. and silver award at long island Camaro show. It has never been to the track but on the street has out run those that claim to run mid 12s . Dyno 331 to the wheels.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Not as much as you got into her. Get ready to swallow a pill. Not saying your car is bad because it is awesome. The problem is that guys will just not pay anything for a thirdgen car regardless of how nice it is or what drivetrain it has in her.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Yeah... I know i'll take a beating just wonder how bad?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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if i had sold my car a few months ago i would had given you about $9,000 for it...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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If it were me and I was in my current market (sunny CA where the demand is high but so is the supply) I would offer it at __K. The LS1 is a high point for sure as are the other mods and the sheer cleanliness of the car.

I had a number in there but really, what it amounts to is that with all you've put into the car you should offer it at a number no one will be prepared to pay for it. I also do not want to insult you



It sure is a peach of a car.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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that's the truth. it's really nice. i would love to have it. but unfortunaly i had a buyer fall through on me...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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I feel like I paid for charm school lessons for my pet pig!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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why are you wanting to sell it anyways? it's really nice...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Iv'e been thinking about getting a new GTO or even a corvette. just at the thinking about it stage.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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but but but....3rd gens are an endangered species! you can't give up on us!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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My son and I still have a 91 rs with t-tops we are working on. I would never abandon you kids altogether. LOL
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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lol keep the LS1 3rd gen, and get rid of the RS!!! then you can have 2 fast cars!! and still a 3rd gen..
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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I admired, drooled over and competed with your car at Third Gen Nationals...very, very nice. You could probably get a nice chunk of cash for it, but I doubt it would be what you think it's worth or what you have invested in it.

I met you and know your heart is in that car -- what's your heart worth?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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I think you should keep the car, it's so nice and you'll kick yourself later for selling it.

I wish I still had my third gen T/A. Actually, no I don't, because then I would never have bought my convertible.

Really nice car, and the LS1 makes it all the nicer.

But if you do sell it, make sure it's someone that will appreciate it and take good care of it!
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by FordGirlGoneBad

I met you and know your heart is in that car -- what's your heart worth?
LOL Leave it to a Woman to answer a tuff question with an even tuffer question.!! It's true I put alot of time, money and love in this car. But it's hard on my fat old bones. I am looking for something I can cross country with. I just have no idea what it is worth. It's mostly a 2002 but I don't think I can get that kind of money.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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You don't have to feed it...

I bought my car CHEAP! I put a fair amount of Blood, Seat, and Money in it. Since I did a good bit of the work myself and bartered for much of the rest - I could probably sell my car now and get out of it most of my investment.

Like you, I have been tempted - mainly by a VERY nice 78 Vette...

I have decided that since it doesn't cost me much to own this car, I will just keep it, and continue to enjoy it. I drive it on weekends, and to work at least one day a week - more when the weather is really nice. Insurance and tags are not too awful expensive and the car is dependable as hell!

I would love to do the LS1 conversion like you did and who knows one of these days when the original motor gives up the ghost I just might, but if I did I would do it knowing that those were dollars I would never get out of the car.

It seems that thirdgen prices are pretty stable. Even with the passage of time the prices for the cars are not going down (Recent time!) I would expect that sometime in the not too distant future the price will start to nudge upward for well kept and restored examples of these cars, and the verts will always command the hightest prices.

My advice to you would be to just keep the Vert, and sell the T-Topper.

That's my $.02 on your $$$Car!

Nice car!

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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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I would pay 15k or more if it was a hardtop with that engine/trans combo-

Convert maybe 10k

That is a beauty!
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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you'd pay more for a hardtop than a convertible? that's kinda the opposite of most people...
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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not with that much power, even with the subframes that vert will eventually start to twist, convertibles are the rarer of thirdgens and IF thirdgens ever do become collectables, straight bodied verts will be the ones worth the most... that and that much power isnt really worth anything in a vert, you cant use it. Anything faster than 13 sec in the 1/4 requires a rollbar in a vert, then its fast, but ugly. I was told that when i thought of putting 330hp into my vert. I still might cuz my heart is in this car, i wouldnt sell it unless it was a live or die situation. Or a 1stgen situation lol

MY , i wouldnt ask any less than 9-10k for it so you know the buyer is serious and not just some silly moron who wants a fast thirdgen and wont appreciate it. I would even ask more personally. The car will take longer to sell, but it will be worth it in the end knowing a serious buyer has your car and it will be taken care of.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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'Verts are worth more now, and they will be in 10, 20 years down the road. This is true with ALL cars, regardless of make and model - I can't think of one production car that is worth more as a hard top...
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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I don't want to get bashed, But I was hopeing someone would say $15,000 +. For 10 grand I'll keep it.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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You won't get bashed because you're not being lame about it - you're being honest, you love your car, you have tons of money into it, and you just hoped it was worth somewhere even close to what you dumped into it. It's a feeling many of us can relate to.

It's really great looking 'vert, I'd love to see the interior and engine. You may find someone who knows the car, that knows the quality of the work and how much you've put in (someone local?) and they may decide it's cheaper to buy yours than to do it themselves, you never know.

However, it seems that it would be hard to get that kind of money here... so.... unless you find that someone to buy it, keep it and enjoy it - summer is only 6 months away
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by '87 IROC VERT
enjoy it - summer is only 6 months away
Good point LOL

If I added it up I'm sure it would come out somewhere between 25k-30k So I won't do that LOL

Thanks for your kind words
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Value

89RSRagtop,

I've said it before and you've probably seen it:

Value is a relative thing. You set the value of something that belongs to you or the value you place on acquireing something.

My favorite example is my old dog. He is a 10.5 year old Labrador Retriever. Since everything I have is for sale I would actually sell even my dog. The first person who puts $20 million in my checking account will own an old wore out hound dog!

Same thing with my vert. If somebody comes up and values the privilege of owning a deep red '90 Camaro RS Vert more than I do they will be driving it. My car is nice, but hasn't had the performance upgrade yours had. I would guess that realistically, I might would sell my car in the 12K range. Of course, realistically (again), nobody is likely to place that much value in it so I will just keep driving it!

Clear roads, and fun curves!

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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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You can get an easy $15k minimum for that car.
I have people offering atleast that much for my car, and that was when it had the crappy 305 and 5 speed.
With the new Superrammed 383 and T56, I know it will be worth more.

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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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I get lots of guys (mostly young) that say they want to buy the car. Then when you say OK you find out they have big mouths and empty pockets. LOL Try saying yes you will find out they are dreamers not buyers.

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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by SchwarzCamaroRS
not with that much power, even with the subframes that vert will eventually start to twist, convertibles are the rarer of thirdgens and IF thirdgens ever do become collectables, straight bodied verts will be the ones worth the most... that and that much power isnt really worth anything in a vert, you cant use it. Anything faster than 13 sec in the 1/4 requires a rollbar in a vert, then its fast, but ugly. I was told that when i thought of putting 330hp into my vert. I still might cuz my heart is in this car, i wouldnt sell it unless it was a live or die situation. Or a 1stgen situation lol
What you say is not true. I have had this combo for over a year. there is no sign of twist. Doors close with one finger. trunk and hood line up perfect. You do need subframes and a tower brace. My Kenny brown's double Y design works well to keep it true. Verts are not race cars, never were. It's true one pass at the track and they would toss me out for no roll bar. What my car is? ,It's a cruiser with enough ba!!s to shut up your average street racing punk LOL

As for as your plans for the 330 moter. that should net about 275 to the wheels and should not be a problem go for it.

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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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89lsragtop -
You unintentionally answered several questions I had not yet asked about my 'vert. Namely, with regard to HP, body twisting/cowl shake, etc.

I think my first order of business will be SFC and a STB to give the car some rigidity. Anything else you can think of?

I need to look for or creat a thread in the 'vert forum on this topic, as my car shakes like a Belfast parking valet when I drive it...
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by '87 IROC VERT
89lsragtop -
You unintentionally answered several questions I had not yet asked about my 'vert. Namely, with regard to HP, body twisting/cowl shake, etc.

I think my first order of business will be SFC and a STB to give the car some rigidity. Anything else you can think of?

I need to look for or creat a thread in the 'vert forum on this topic, as my car shakes like a Belfast parking valet when I drive it...
Belfast parking valet As a member of the AOH and drummer in an Irish bag pipe band that's very funny.
All verts need bracing ASC did a $%#* job on stiffing them up. My subframes made a night and day diffrence easy the best mod I did!! Also when you get a tower brace make sure it's a three point type. It must bolt to the cowl to help with the shake. You will not get rid of all shake but will cut down 90% of it. I also added a TDS wonder bar It didn't make much diffrence, but I am sure it does it's part and worth the money. Before I did these mods I used to joke that it was like driving a nerf car. (made of foam rubber)
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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I actually stole that line from Dennis Miller, I heard him use it at a lecture he gave a few months ago here in LA.

I need to get that stuff and stiffen up my chassis, not sure what to get, but found a good thread on it today -

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...04#post2598604
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Get Kenny Brown or Spohn subframes they are very similar and a good design.They will need to be welded in. For the tower brace edelbrock make three point ones for our cars two types TBI/carb or TPI. Spohn and TDS make wonder bars. I like TDS better. If you go with Spohn don't waste mony on an adjustable one It's BS
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Oddly, I went to Hawk's, the the SFC's they listed said note: not for convertible cars.

I can't find the ones on TDS, looks like a nice website, but very difficult to navigate...

Help!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by '87 IROC VERT
Oddly, I went to Hawk's, the the SFC's they listed said note: not for convertible cars.

I can't find the ones on TDS, looks like a nice website, but very difficult to navigate...

Help!
Go to spohn site for SFC . For wonder bar click on TDS site it's in upper left side click on it. They are both sponsors
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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http://newengland-motorsports.com/fo...ead.php?t=9798

That's a thread on a local forum about a guy selling a firebird convertible with an LS1. Not quite the same car but give you a general idea.
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