http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=233379442 I am thinking about getting this car next friday.Does this price seem a little high or is that about right for the miles?I would be trading my 98 lexus GS400 for it.Another question;i have a guy that wants to trade an 89 TTA for my GS400.The TTA is in great condition and modded to run high 11s in the 1/4.Which would you guys trade for?I am kind of torn.

 

i think the price is little high on convert.i would go with tta.

 

I agree the price is high. Unfortunately autotrader.com is full of these over priced Camaro's thanks to all of the T.V. auctions-because someday their run of the mill Iroc will be worth more than a 1969 Camaro Z28

 

That car should appraise for more than 11k and the ta who knows how rigged up and ragged out it is Id go with the Camaro I have seen low mileage cars like that go for 18-20k

 

I don't think the price on the vert is really all that bad considering the car has low miles on it. I am sure there is some room to beat him up a little bit on it.

Your Lexus is a much more comfortable car than both the vert and the TTA. If you want to go fast (e.g. TTA) don't even consider the vert. They are slow. More of a cruiser.

As far as which to trade for. Both show up often on the internet., TTA is a sweet car, I have driven a few and owned multiple turbo buicks. Since it is already modded it could be saving you a ton of money in go-fast mods. If the vert were a 90-92 it would be a much tougher decision for me, but between these 2 if the TTA is in good shape I say go for it!

 

Am I going to be the first forum member with OVER 500 posts to weigh in?

1. I've never seen a convertible 3rd gen in stock condition go for over 8K. There was one but someone had it in a warehouse with 900 miles.
2. If the TTA is restorable to original condition (i.e., it's not modded to death) it's worth far more than the vert.
3. If you are asking me to pick between Camaro and Firebird, the choice is easy to me: Pontiac.

Does the GS400 have a billion miles on it? Book value at around the same price as the Camaro I spose. The TTA is simply an uber-rare car in high demand. That's what I would do.

Then again, the Lexus could be much less maintenance. Got a family? The vert and the TTA are no go for family.

 

TTA. No contest. I don't know if I'd trade straight across though.

But I'm biased towards pontiacs and fast cars.

 

The convertable is a little high. He needs to sit on it a couple of months to figure out how rediculous he is. Car will sit a while at 12000. The TTA is not worth it either. As soon as you start screwing with the engine the value starts falling fast. The car was rare because of the engine setup. Kind of reminds me of the kid that did an engine swap on a Vega Cosworth then could figure out why noone would give him over 5 grand for it. "it still had the gold plate on the dash"LOL

 

I'd defently go for the TTA if it's in good shape. Hopefully anything the guy was smart enough to keep all the parts he replaced.

 

I own both, a 92 T/A convertible and an 89 TTA.And here's what I can tell you. If you're an attention ***** then get the convertible, everybody loves a convertible and you will too while driving it.It's certainly not a 13 second car, but it's spunky I guess.
An 89 TTA moded to go 11 secs will be a high-strung animal, mines a 12 sec car and it's high strung. Lots of tuning and finessing with a turbocharged V6 that's producing in excess of 350 HP and just guessing here, an 11 sec car will be more than 400HP I'd suspect.
Once you start modifying a TTA it becomes more of a "gunfighter" and not "sexy" like a convertible.

 

I agree, go with the TTA as long as your happy with its condition. I can't stand it how in the past few years, people as astronomical prices for their 'lower' mileage car like the convertible. I think the vert should only be worth about $9k. Whereas the TTA will be a much better value/investment in the lng run as long as it was taken care of.

 

I paid $12,000 for my Z28 with 32,000 miles on it, and I've seen a few others sell for way above $8,000. And this was 5 yrs ago. My car with 60K more on it is still appraised at $12,000 because the market value is increasing on these cars.

 

Yikes! are these cars really selling for this high? man i bought my 91 vert with a 5,000 dollar paint job for only 1 grand however it wasnt running (all it needed was a battery and 2 spark plug wires to get it home) and was missing the whole interior i think i got a good deal.

 

TTA hands down ****** that up

 

Same here. I've seen many low mileage stock verts in the market place go for more than $8,000.
Mine was appraised at over $20,000(CDN) 4 years ago. I bought it for about $10,000 less 7 years ago.
A minty original vert of the Z-28 & IrocZ pedigree is not a bad deal.

 

My GS only has 97,000 miles and needs nothing.I havent had any luck trying to sell it so i thought i would offer to trade on turbobuick.com for a GN.I am a HUGE fan of GNs,SY/TYs,and TTAs.As far as the GS goes i am just bored with it.The vert would be cool because its low miles and unlike my GS might actually go up in value.No the TTA is pretty nice also and has 78,000 original miles.It has all options and everything works.The only problem is that the car is in jersey and i would have to drive 500 miles to meet the guy (which i would do).I dont think i could go really wrong either way but it never hurts to have input from people who understands these cars(unlike my cowokers who think i am crazy for considering either one).

 

Better to be crazy and happy than sane and dull.

 

And broke.



I paid 2700 once, made improvements, minor restorations, spent some money over three years ago.

My car worth that? If so, maybe I should sell?

Never!!!

 

bought my 86irocz from ebay for $1000. It ran, needed a new tire and a tune up. Drove it for awhile until I decided what I was going to do to it.

There are alot of deals out there. Some are are awesome and some "seem" awesome at first.....my .

 

I dunno, I'd just be really hesitant to buy a TTA that has been tweaked over pretty hard. Not only is it not original anymore, but you never know what could go wrong 100 miles down the road because you don't even know what went into the build.

 

good point but the same could be said of anything really..

 

That is true, but I'd be hesitant on buying ANYTHING that has been ripped apart and rebuilt like that. The thing about the TTA is that it's only truely original once, but if someone took say a regular RS and did the same thing, and I bought it, I wouldn't feel so bad for having such a highly modified car because it would never be worth anything close to a TTA.

 

It's only money, buy the one you want and do what ever you want to it.
Don't look to the car as in investment unless you want to put it up in bubble wrap.
Unless it is super rare, LOW LOW (like under 12,xxx) miles and all original it is just a car and they were made to be driven.
Go for the you that you think will bring you the most pleasure, I really like my $2500 Vert, I put in another $2000 and still have more to spend, but that is not the point, if you can set up a budget and afford it, do it, I drove mine to work today (wife's car in the shop so she took my daily driver - 2001 Solara) and I can't wait to get in it and cruise home.
Life's short, we are only on this rock for a limited time, have some fun.

Added: (Fixed Link, Guy deleted his add and reposted)
Look at this one, guy wants $6900 I think.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/528265081.html

91 Firebird Vert with 49,xxx

 

Link not valid.

 

Here is a prime example what our cars are worth in great shape this one is at just over 15,000 with three days to go unmolested not modified stock camaro

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...em300186304764

 

Absolutely GORGEOUS.

 

Very sweet. The tan top even looks pretty good with the exterior & interior colours.
It kind'a bugs me that after what appears to be so much attention to details, that the Iroc-Z door decals are in the wrong place (minor).

 

yeah it's defently not origional, most likely a repaint and whoever did it didn't realize where the decals are suppose to be on an 89..

 

Definitely a beautiful car, but for this kind of money is the decal being in the wrong place, no door molding, and gloss black around the headlights a minor flaw. No, this is major in my opinion for this money. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have this car, I love these cars that's why I currently own three, but I do not believe these cars should be bringing this kind of money yet, unless they are the very low mile cars that haven't been repainted. I believe the white Iroc convertible you're interested in is somewhere in the 8-9k range.

 

Updated link for the Guy (Dealer I think) selling the 91 Firebird Vert.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/528265081.html
Just as an example of what is out there.

 

That is a bummer that the Iroc logo is wrong and has definately been painted but the car is beautiful and is still bringing big money NO WAY would I sell my car for less than-well you cant really put a price on it

 

Exactly the way I think about it...yea sure I've had my car appraised so it has a certain "value" to it, but honestly I don't think I would sell it for that price if I were every crazy enough to sell it. I think it would come with a higher price than that just because it's not worth it to me to sell a car like this. Some things you just can't put a price on. If I had the IROC convertible on ebay I probably wouldn't sell it either because it's such a nice example of what these cars should be.

 

The reality is that you'd not likely get your "appriased" value if you ever tried to sell it outright. Just like the guy on eBay... he's never going to get 15K for it (this year).

The fact is to us, our cars are priceless.

 

One of my dad's friends has been nagging me for the last 2 yrs to sell him the car for $10,000 which is just a bit under the appraised value...He asks me about it just about every time I see him but I keep telling him it's not worth it for me to sell it. Besides, I'd have to see him drive it around town all the time and if I was ever gonna sell it (which I won't) I would want to sell it to someone really far away so I never see it again and get the twitches.

 

Here is what is wrong with the ebay car
1) appears to be a repaint, the IROC emblem is in the front of the door, it should be in the back of the door.
2) The door jamb rubber bumper is missing on the Drivers door
3) Someone has taken the liberty to paint the underside black, they got it all over the exhaust, you can tell,
4) The stripe has some bubbles in it where it wraps the front drivers corner.
5) The rear of the drivers door where it meets the rear quarter is too high, the highlight lines do not match.
6) There is some paint overspray on the trunk seal, and on the trunk Latch,
7) The Front Strut mounts both have a yellow Dot, I thought that they were suposed to be different colors. (White & Red??)

 

What does that do to the value, John? In short, appraise this car.

 

Which car, the White Car or the Red Car.

The Red car is a pretty car, its not correct, but it shines. the paint looks better than original but it is not original. I think $15,000 is a fair deal, and not out of touch, as that was what someone was willing to pay.

The fact that it was painted, and some of the things are incorrect are a minus, But WHY was it painted. If in my case I want a show car, show cars with original paint do not win shows, period, the OE paint is no where as nice as the newer aftermarket paints. From what I noticed on the underside of the Tonneau there may be rust issues, that and the fact the underside of the car has all been painted black, with no regard to at least an attempt to mask the exhaust. The paint on the trunk latch is also another inidcation that the paint job might have been done by someone who wanted to make a buck and did not take the time to do the job "Right". It shows lack of detail. But the car looks GREAT until you get close and really inspect the car.

If the car was truely original and looked like that then yes, $18,000 to $20,000 might not be out of reason. Because of these little things that would drive me nuts personally I will estimate the car's real value to be around $12,000 to $16,000. For insurance purposes $25,000.

John

 

okfoz,whats your opinion on the white 88 i originally posted about??

 

wow this car was in nd on the 4th of july 2007 saw it when i went to go pick up my vert but when it was selling for about 6k

 

I really do not know about the White car. It has to do with lack of pictures and information. It is an Automatic, for what it is worth I think that could be a minus in some books where the Red car I think was a Manual. Depending on the quality of paint and the condition of things under the hood and the interior it could be as much as the Red car... The White car also has Cloth for the interior, which I think is a little minus. It does have the Deluxe interior with the headrests instead of the highback buckets which I like however.

Figure a perfect car is worth $15,000 to $18,000 with the options on it.
WHITE hides a lot of imperfections like door dings, dents etc.

I would guess in my book between $7K and 11K depending on the actual condition of the pieces and parts. I would think if the car is Perfect, to where you feel that you could take it to a car show and be proud then $11K, if you need to fix a bunch of little things then closer to $7K

I really can't say, To me White is a huge minus, it just does not flatter the car. I prefer Metallics, honestly I wish my Vert was a metallic, Yellow metallic is yucky. its all personal preference.



John

 

Yeah,it being white and an auto are what i am not crazy about.I am still considering going to look at it though.Thanks for the input.

 

Well i guess none of these trades are going to happen.The place with the IROC vert told me that they would take my car + a few thousand dollars (which was an insult) and the TTA is just too far away.Oh well,thanks to all that replied.

 

i part a 92 ta vert for like 4300 and drove it home like 9 hours with no problems (best deal ever 4 me)

 

I watched an '88 vert, like 48K miles on Ebay go in the bidding to $14K+, reserve not met. I had chased that car in an Autotrader scam - the scam was the shipping company. Guy in Texas has the car, I talked to him after I saw it pop back up. The scammers had simply taken the car pics/data and used it as their own, were going to get you on the shipping part. Bottom line, I believe I've seen a few on Ebay, advertised as stock, low miles go for $10K+. I was all over looking until I bought mine from Craig's list.