I was trolling ebay tonight and came a cross this vert. Who can pick out the oddity on this car. Besides the fact that its grossly over priced what else do you notice thats wierd. I looked at it a few times and it took a while to get it.
Matt
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-...em330206843227

 

WTF! That vert is overpriced!

 

u mean the 86 part ?

 

nope keep lookin, it looks like an asc vert but theres a part to the conversion ive never seen done like this before.
Matt

 

Looks like the top is riveted down in the back? That does look weird. Looks restorable, but lots of work is going to be done. Reminds me what a great deal I did get on my Trans Am

Sad to see them get like that though.

 

Yea, top looks screwed down.

Steering wheel doesnt look right to me either, but I dont know 86's that well.

If someone has a wrecked vert, and this is a true asc conversion. This would be a great project car.

 

That would make a nice one to restore. The price is to high. Man they must have had this thing sitting under an Oak Tree since 1991 with no cover to get that bad.

 

It would be an awesome project car, if it was 500 bucks but at 2500 I dont think so. This is like its third time on ebay. Anyway the oddity is the rear spoiler. Check it out it uses a stock 3 piece. Never seen an ASC car like that. Wonder who it was made by if not ASC.
Matt

 

i wonder if he would trade me for my ocean front property in arizona?? I been looking to get rid of it

 

Wow! here are a couple in Missouri for sale, from cheap needs lot of work to ready to drive.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/553868681.html ($750) 88 RS

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/555121925.html ($1999) 87 Camaro

http://www.fastlouis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=65771 ($7500) 91 T/A Nice

 

I am new to Camaro's but my 305 has a TBI that looks like a TPI, the truck looks short compared to my 88. What do ya'll think this car is worth?

 

yea its a TPI, i wouldnt pay much for it, it has HIGH miles and is in real bad shape, would need a complete resto, from the frame up, sure its missing alot of original parts also, and i think it may be some kind of a local shop type of vert conversion, does not look like an ASC at all...... like i said i would trade him my ocean front property in arizona for it, LOL.....i say $400-$600 tops unless there is something i dont know, like a pot of gold in the trunk

 

It is not a ASC conversion. There was a vinyl tonneau cover that snaps onto those snaps you see to hide the top when retracted. There were several companies that did this type of conversion prior to ASC's "factory authorized" version. I can't tell who it was converted by from the pictures and the eBay seller gives no info, nor does he have a clue what he should expect to get for a non ASC convertible that is in very rough condition. I hope he put it under cover, we've had over 5.5" of rain in the past week.

Lon

 

im sure there is a pond in it, but on the plus side if you buy it you will have your own portable fishin pond


LOL i think the steering wheel came off of an old C70 chevy dump truck!!

 

Good catch on the spoiler. Wish mine was that way so it would be easier for me to remove.

And a z28 did come with TPI. Thats not odd.

 

hahaha at less the dash is not cracked Selling point
That going to take a lot of work to become a classic one day. Who does he think he's play at saying that the CONVERTIBLE TOP MAY ALSO HAVE TO BE CHANGED of course it has to if you don't want to be swimming in the rain

 

It's sad seeing a vert end up like that, ASC or not.
I think I'm going to go give mine a hug.

 

And I was gonna go with...."wrong tail lights, for a 86".

But that looks like an Autoform 'vert conversion. My buddy's 84 Trans Am has those same snaps.

For $500, MAYBE, but SURELY not $2500!

 

Maybe I should have written this before. I can't tell you who did the conversion. I CAN tell who didn't It is not an ASC or Autoform conversion. Autoform conversions have a small rectangular lid to access the trunk well with huge ugly (IMO) chrome plated hinges. Also Autoform is a two seater. In the picture in the top row, fourth column you can see the top of the rear seat back.

Lon

PS: I'd offer to call and drop in to take a look at it in person, but I don't want to waste my time or gas. Also I haven't bought a fishing license yet, so I can't fish the pond inside the interior. Besides I'm seriously hoping everyone here knows to stay away from one of these non ASC or AutoForm conversions, especially one that is as ROUGH as this one appears. Remember, pictures usually make a car look better than it really is in person. But hey, if someone needs a chicken coop and wants to pay for my gas for the 30 minute one-way trp I'll consider driving down to take some more pictures of it. Trust me, some galvanized chicken wire will close up that rear window just fine and the chickens will be happy.

 

My buddies is a 2 seater Autoform, but I wasn't sure if Autoform did 4 seaters as well.

Choo Choo Customs 'vert maybe?

 

Sorry, I need to add to my list of who didn't convert this. Also not a Choo Choo Customs. I believe Choo Choo did the conversions using kits from ASC. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. The Choo Choo conversions look identical to the early ASC conversions. Also not done by Duquet-Sawdy Inc of Warren Mi. Theirs had a 3-piece rear window from what I read.

This leaves the following companies for speculation:
Autodyne Corp of Lincoln Park, MI
Hi-Line Kustons of Valley City, ND
American Custom Coachworks of Beverly Hills, CA
John Greenwood of Longwood, FL
Coach Builders Ltd of High Springs, FL
Richard Straman of Costa Mesa, CA

Trust me, your chickens won't care who converted this car. They'll still be happy cluckers.

Lon

 

his best bet is to take it to take the dash pad out clean it up and sell it .... then i got no clue what to tell him to do with the rest of it, maybe he can tow it to the boat shows as a portable fishing pond i wonder if the beach ball and bucket are included with it???


he has had 6 offers, i wonder what they been offering..... does anyone know how much it would cost to restore that heap??

 

I believe the first true Iroc convertible came in 1987 by ASC. They made it the 20th anniv. to the camaro. The car came with a special leather pouch on the dash stating the fact of the 20th anniversary. They also didnt make very many of them. That car on E-bay is junk!!!! Anybody with a snake should pick it up just for the mice that the cars full of. Sometimes they need to be crushed and not restored unlike the saying on American Muscle Car.. " Dont crush'em, restore'em"

 

it looks like it has a real convertible tonneau cover but has the hardtop spoiler. the trunk is split in a wierd way. and the top is funky shaped. one ugly car, not even worth $500 imh

 

Since it is pre-OEM 'vert days, I wouldn't be surprised at all, if the 'vert spoilers even EXISTED back then, therefore it would/has the "standard" spoiler.

 

ohhhhh 2000 now, maybe he is tired of getting $100 offers....... I wonder what Raul & Humberto are smoking, drinking, or snorting ...... i do agree i dont think its worth restoring, its worth more parting it out than selling it out right, still, im sure some of the parts can be cleaned up and sold.......reminds me of this POS Z28 some guy tried to sell me for $4,500 a few years ago, it was so cruddy it had tail light black outs with no tail lights, just bulbs sitting behind the black out

 

Its not an ASC, there is NO Tonneau Cover under the top... It appears to be a Hi-Line, Rare, yeah, probably, worth anytihng in that condition? Nope. I waws thinking of offering $250, then I realized it was not an ASC car.

No Rust, what is that on the Drivers fender, and what is up with the Radiator in the back seat?

John

 

i made an offer of 250.00. figure i can part it out and sell the TPI stuff and a few other items. should be able to sell 600-800 worth of parts.

 

The badging is off too. z28 on the sides and IROC-Z in the back. IROC-Z did not come as a badge until 1988.

Kevin

 

face it honnestly its a POS that it, it a junk car that aint worth as it is, it worth tons more parted out

 

How come it has no plastic extentions going from the rear of the 1/4's to the doors like all the other verts ???trunk doesn't look right either ,oh yeah and NO dumb offers BUT he can ask a dumb price???

 

Holy crap, that's sad indeed *takes hat off, places over chest and hangs head*

Weird how the entire intior is ruined, but dash pad looks like all it needs is a good cleaning there you go. . . maybe its protected by about 5 years worth of dust and dirt. . .

And is it me, or is there a watermelon growing in there, behind the passenger's seat???

 

OH MY GOD!!!!! Is this guy really trying to sell this thing. He should be paying someone to take it off his hands. Is there anything thats good on this car?

 

4 min left no buyers, i think the seller has Barret Jackson fever..... he will probably relist for the same........ and i agree, dumb price, requires dumb offers, like i will trade you my half eaten dubble cheese burger for it

 

The answer is related to the non-stock rear spoiler mentioned earlier.

 

did you see some of th offers? one was $2000.00 what was he thinking he should have sold it!

 

Should have sold for what ever he was offered.

 

Some charities will give you a few bucks for your old car and sometimes even haul it away for you.

 

that isn't an offer of 2000.00, its a counter offer. i made the offer of 250.00 and he made a counter offer of 1500.00. when the auction ended it shows my offer was 1500.00 instead of the 250.00.