clutch fan help
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Car: 1999 Yamaha Banshee
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clutch fan help
ok im tired of this single crappy electric fan, im going to go to a clutch fan and thats that (
). ok to my understanding i need a fan and a clutch and a shroud. For the shroud i got the part number from the local dealer, i asked for a fan shroud from a 1982 camaro 305. the part number is 22040195. GMPartsDirect sells this part for $40. then i will need a fan clutch. my local autoparts store has a fan clutch from a 1990 caprice 350 TBI for $30, its a non-thermal clutch. the thermal clutch sells for $83, so im going to go with the non-thermal one. now for the fan i want to get a nice flex fan. Here's the one i am looking at getting. it's a 17" reverse rotation fan. i will need a reverse rotation since my water pump turns in the reverse rotation right. that includes everything, and the price for everything new will be close to $100.
i could get an electric fan for a little bit less money, but i would still have to worry about switches, wiring, and all that other crap. remember my stock fan wiring is gone, so i am running off a manual switch that i always have to turn off and on. also this puts quite the load on my alternator. i know that for a lil more money i could even get a dual fan setup, but why, i would still have to mess with wiring and switches that i have to manually control. and to get a low temp switch that goes in the head is gonna run me $50, half the price of just getting a brand new nice clutch fan.
did i get everything i need?
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brady
). ok to my understanding i need a fan and a clutch and a shroud. For the shroud i got the part number from the local dealer, i asked for a fan shroud from a 1982 camaro 305. the part number is 22040195. GMPartsDirect sells this part for $40. then i will need a fan clutch. my local autoparts store has a fan clutch from a 1990 caprice 350 TBI for $30, its a non-thermal clutch. the thermal clutch sells for $83, so im going to go with the non-thermal one. now for the fan i want to get a nice flex fan. Here's the one i am looking at getting. it's a 17" reverse rotation fan. i will need a reverse rotation since my water pump turns in the reverse rotation right. that includes everything, and the price for everything new will be close to $100.i could get an electric fan for a little bit less money, but i would still have to worry about switches, wiring, and all that other crap. remember my stock fan wiring is gone, so i am running off a manual switch that i always have to turn off and on. also this puts quite the load on my alternator. i know that for a lil more money i could even get a dual fan setup, but why, i would still have to mess with wiring and switches that i have to manually control. and to get a low temp switch that goes in the head is gonna run me $50, half the price of just getting a brand new nice clutch fan.
did i get everything i need?
thanks
brady
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If you have a serpentine belt your waterpump is reverse rotation. I made a mistake in this original post. Let me get back to you gotta check something out.
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Damn..........funny you ask.........because I just happen to have a BRAND NEW NEVER USED (well technically I only used it for one day but for all intents and purposes its new) reverse rotation clutch fan that fits PERFECT in your thirdgen engine bay.................as far as I know, only certain clutch fans will clear the hood (not sure 17incher would), so be warned. You say you are paying $100 for all that stuff??? I'll sell you mine for $50 if you pay some shipping. Its brand spanking new, you could eat off it
Let me know, I need some money ASAP.
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Running a flex fan with a clutch kinda defeats the purpose. If you want to run a flex fan, get the correct one(reverse rotation in your case) and the spacer kit that eliminates the clutch. A flex fan flattens the more you rev it. A non-thermal clutch fan slips more, the more you rev it. A thermal clutch slips when the engine gets hotter. You just need one of those three options. If you run a fan clutch, use a regular fan. Flex fan use the spacer kit.
if i were you. id go with a fan clutch and a regular fan. this is because while the blades my flatten out on a flex fan.. you are still turning that mass and the blades are not going to flatten out completly.. plus i hear regular fans still flow more air because they don't flatten out.. well either way let us know how the swap goes and if it keeps u cool..
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Originally posted by breathment
if i were you. id go with a fan clutch and a regular fan. this is because while the blades my flatten out on a flex fan.. you are still turning that mass and the blades are not going to flatten out completly.. plus i hear regular fans still flow more air because they don't flatten out.. well either way let us know how the swap goes and if it keeps u cool..
if i were you. id go with a fan clutch and a regular fan. this is because while the blades my flatten out on a flex fan.. you are still turning that mass and the blades are not going to flatten out completly.. plus i hear regular fans still flow more air because they don't flatten out.. well either way let us know how the swap goes and if it keeps u cool..
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http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/flex1500.htm
Is probably the flex fan you want--if you go with a flex fan. How much air they pull depends on the flex fan you use--the above link is the one I have now. It pulls enough air that around town I can run the A/C in 100 degree temps. It pulls more air than a stocker,--it's not clutched and the blades are curved--at the lower rpms anyway. A clutched fan never turns at waterpump rpm--always slipping, don't kick in until the engine is too hot. As you can see, I've had poor luck with clutch fans
Is probably the flex fan you want--if you go with a flex fan. How much air they pull depends on the flex fan you use--the above link is the one I have now. It pulls enough air that around town I can run the A/C in 100 degree temps. It pulls more air than a stocker,--it's not clutched and the blades are curved--at the lower rpms anyway. A clutched fan never turns at waterpump rpm--always slipping, don't kick in until the engine is too hot. As you can see, I've had poor luck with clutch fans
Originally posted by brodyscamaro
will do. when do you get the 6 speed? thats cool, wish i had one
will do. when do you get the 6 speed? thats cool, wish i had one
finished it up about 2 weeks ago.. WELL worth the $2000.. well especialy since the old 700r4 kinda blew up..
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Originally posted by breathment
finished it up about 2 weeks ago.. WELL worth the $2000.. well especialy since the old 700r4 kinda blew up..
finished it up about 2 weeks ago.. WELL worth the $2000.. well especialy since the old 700r4 kinda blew up..
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Engine: 379cc twin cyl 2-stroke stroker
Transmission: 6 spd manual
Axle/Gears: 14/41 tooth
Originally posted by breathment
yup.. put the car up on a lift and it was a pretty easy swap actualy.. you might think swapping out a tranny would be difficult.. but i was suprised at how easy the swap was..
yup.. put the car up on a lift and it was a pretty easy swap actualy.. you might think swapping out a tranny would be difficult.. but i was suprised at how easy the swap was..
u can get other 3rd gen pedals that will bolt right in. or u can use 4th gen pedals and drill out the brake booster holes larger and cut off the gas pedal and they will bolt right in.. as far as the center console. im going to go with a 4th gen console eventualy.. suprising the pedal installation was the hardest part of the whole swap.. adn once i learned that i justed needed teh bolt holes larger. then they went right in.
overall there is very little modifications that you need to do. just cut a hole for the clutch master cylinder and the shifter and thats it..
overall there is very little modifications that you need to do. just cut a hole for the clutch master cylinder and the shifter and thats it..
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Engine: 379cc twin cyl 2-stroke stroker
Transmission: 6 spd manual
Axle/Gears: 14/41 tooth
Originally posted by breathment
u can get other 3rd gen pedals that will bolt right in. or u can use 4th gen pedals and drill out the brake booster holes larger and cut off the gas pedal and they will bolt right in.. as far as the center console. im going to go with a 4th gen console eventualy.. suprising the pedal installation was the hardest part of the whole swap.. adn once i learned that i justed needed teh bolt holes larger. then they went right in.
overall there is very little modifications that you need to do. just cut a hole for the clutch master cylinder and the shifter and thats it..
u can get other 3rd gen pedals that will bolt right in. or u can use 4th gen pedals and drill out the brake booster holes larger and cut off the gas pedal and they will bolt right in.. as far as the center console. im going to go with a 4th gen console eventualy.. suprising the pedal installation was the hardest part of the whole swap.. adn once i learned that i justed needed teh bolt holes larger. then they went right in.
overall there is very little modifications that you need to do. just cut a hole for the clutch master cylinder and the shifter and thats it..
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