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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Car: 88 TA
Engine: 350ci
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Fans no worky - seems complicated

Ok,

Yes its a common problem and yes I tried the search function but I didn't find any relevant info.
Car: 88 GTA stock cooling setup.
Fans didn't work anymore from one day to the other. Won't run with AC on, won't run with ALDL on.
All fuses are fine.
Checked the relays for the fans. Result:
Hot-wired both relays on pin A and E, fans won't come on (used the diagrams I found here). Relays had 12V to ground, tho. On one relay, the pins D and F had current as well. Interchanged the relays.. Still no fans.
I wouldn't be happy about cutting any cables for testing.. And seeing it was crap what I did.

On the diagram below, seen from the electrical aspect, the fuses are set wrong. But is this the explanation for why I still have 12V at the fusible link with the fuse pulled?



Or are the relays simply shot? Howsoever this could happen in the blink of an eye.

Thanks for any input.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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From: conway, s.c.
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: 700R4
I can give you the wiring schematics for an 89 camaro's cooling fans that might help you if you want them.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Sure, that'd be great. Sed'em over!! Ask for my email via PN or post them here..

Thx!!
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Old May 23, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
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Hello Flameredroc,

Here are those schematics, hope they help you.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
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part 2
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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From: Dutchess county, NY
Car: 87 Formula Firebird
Engine: 5.8Ltr 356
Transmission: WC t-5...... probobly go boom soon.
im just plain sick of my stock fans, anyone have any suggestions on a radiator-fan combo? i want the fans to run indepenant of the original wireing, and without a switch. i also want a good aluminum radiator. not affraid to spend. i want a system that can cool at least a 500hp motor.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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From: Sahuarita, AZ
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 TBI, nearly stock
Transmission: 700R4, stock
Axle/Gears: 3.23 out of a V6/5 speed car.
Same problem....
The schematics helped considerably, but which relay(s) under the hood are for the fans?????
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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From: conway, s.c.
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: 700R4
There should be one next to the radiator and one on the fender next to the coolant tank.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 TBI, nearly stock
Transmission: 700R4, stock
Axle/Gears: 3.23 out of a V6/5 speed car.
Thanx, that helped alot!!!!
Now I can test the power flow according to the above charts.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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From: Somewhere just below the Mason/Dixon Line, MD
Engine: 383 stroker in the works
Cooling fan does not work

My cooling fan does not come on unless I have the A/C on. It has been doing this on my 1990 Formula since I bought it 1.5 years ago. My dad and I replaced the relay and checked the fuses, but still no fan. Does any one have any suggestions on what to test/try next? It would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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From: conway, s.c.
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Do you have the single or dual fan set-up on your car. Also, have you checked the coolant fan switch in the engine above the starter to the left of the knock sensor?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Nope. Haven't tried the fan switch, and it is the single fan setup. Thanks alot for the suggestion.
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