R-134 conversion question
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R-134 conversion question
My 91 is 2 lb low on R-12. I can add r-12 for $35/lb ($70 tot). For the same price, I can evacuate it, replace the orface tube and accumulator. I have the equipment to evacuate it at school and what not. Would this qualify as a proper conversion. I'd rathar not replace the compressor, as my budget is under $100. How do I get all the old oil out, will this happen with the evacuation? Is the oil that is in the new R-134 cans enough to lube the system properely? From reading the "Recomended GM procedure" I think that I should be ok with just replacing the accumulator and orface tube. What's your thoughts?
Thanks, Matt
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I say stick with R-12. More efficient, not any worse for the environment (look it up, R134a is no better), and COLDER.
And no - that's not enough to convert. At best you'll have a mixed system.
And no - that's not enough to convert. At best you'll have a mixed system.
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as cold as R12 is, its getting very expensive to recharge.
I got quoted a 300 dollar recharge on the A/C when for the same amount I can have an entirely new A/C unit installed.
Right now my car doesn't have much of an a/c as far as I am concerned, there are them lucky days when I get good compression with the a/c and on some ugly days (like when the car is staying out in the sun for like 9-10 hours straight) I basically have no a/c at my disposal to the drive home or from home.
I would recharge on the R12 anymore, there's o getting around the fact that R12 is going to be not available anymore, I had an R134a system in my previous car and it was great, very cold, very strong blower, it cools you down within seconds. If you are a handyman at work I'd say try and get that R134a conversion kit and install the a/c yourself, I am going to do it within the next few months, my a/c maybe strong enough to last me the summer but during the cool winter days something is going to have to be done.
I got quoted a 300 dollar recharge on the A/C when for the same amount I can have an entirely new A/C unit installed.
Right now my car doesn't have much of an a/c as far as I am concerned, there are them lucky days when I get good compression with the a/c and on some ugly days (like when the car is staying out in the sun for like 9-10 hours straight) I basically have no a/c at my disposal to the drive home or from home.
I would recharge on the R12 anymore, there's o getting around the fact that R12 is going to be not available anymore, I had an R134a system in my previous car and it was great, very cold, very strong blower, it cools you down within seconds. If you are a handyman at work I'd say try and get that R134a conversion kit and install the a/c yourself, I am going to do it within the next few months, my a/c maybe strong enough to last me the summer but during the cool winter days something is going to have to be done.
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Well I converted it to 134. Replaced the Accumulator and the orifice tube. Great results, it was 80 degrees out, A/C was kicking out 34-35 degree air. Checked it with a couple thermometers to make sure it was accurate. So far so good. We'll see how the compressor holds up.
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I say stick with R-12. More efficient, not any worse for the environment (look it up, R134a is no better), and COLDER.
And no - that's not enough to convert. At best you'll have a mixed system.
I say stick with R-12. More efficient, not any worse for the environment (look it up, R134a is no better), and COLDER.
And no - that's not enough to convert. At best you'll have a mixed system.
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Originally posted by Danno
He is CORRECT. A proper 134 conversion costs MORE than a 12 refill, assuming your system is tight. Cross contamination of refrigerants is a worse problem for the environment. If you can stick with 12 use it, and make sure it is in fact 12. A lot of garages are using Freeze 12 saying it's 12. Check the drum and make sure it is Freon.
He is CORRECT. A proper 134 conversion costs MORE than a 12 refill, assuming your system is tight. Cross contamination of refrigerants is a worse problem for the environment. If you can stick with 12 use it, and make sure it is in fact 12. A lot of garages are using Freeze 12 saying it's 12. Check the drum and make sure it is Freon.
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Originally posted by 91ChevyRS
Not if you take the car and drain all the freon out like you're supposed to. I dont know what I am going to do as far as conversion or just a plain full out recharge. I'd like to reconvert it because its just going to be a hassle in the near future if I dont, but again I am still not sure I know how to do the conversion by myself.
Not if you take the car and drain all the freon out like you're supposed to. I dont know what I am going to do as far as conversion or just a plain full out recharge. I'd like to reconvert it because its just going to be a hassle in the near future if I dont, but again I am still not sure I know how to do the conversion by myself.
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