What is the second mark on the gauge?
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What is the second mark on the gauge?
This may sound like a dumb question (and it probably is), but out of the four quarter marks on the coolant temperature gauge, what temperature is the one between the 100 and the 220? My car usually doesn't even make it there, that's why I'm wondering. The only time it will is if I'm at a light for a long time or otherwise moving very slow. That's with neither of the radiator fans turned on too. I have a 165 tstat. Yes, 165, not 160.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
Midway between 100 and 220 is 160.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
The gauge is not linear, so it's not strictly accurate to just divide that range in half like that.
As you will notice, the low end is 100; the middle is 220, i.e. it takes 120° to go the 1st half of the gauge; but the high end is 260, meaning it only takes 40° to go the other half.
The sensor is DEFINITELY not linear. It's more of a log curve. But the gauge itself isn't linear either. (speaking strictly as a mathematician) I don't think it's realistic to even try to calculate a transfer function for the whole system.
Although I've never measured it, I'd estimate the "¼" mark at closer to 175°.
As you will notice, the low end is 100; the middle is 220, i.e. it takes 120° to go the 1st half of the gauge; but the high end is 260, meaning it only takes 40° to go the other half.
The sensor is DEFINITELY not linear. It's more of a log curve. But the gauge itself isn't linear either. (speaking strictly as a mathematician) I don't think it's realistic to even try to calculate a transfer function for the whole system.
Although I've never measured it, I'd estimate the "¼" mark at closer to 175°.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
When it gets to that point hit your thermostat with a infrared thermometer. You'll know for sure that way.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
The gauge is not linear, so it's not strictly accurate to just divide that range in half like that.
As you will notice, the low end is 100; the middle is 220, i.e. it takes 120° to go the 1st half of the gauge; but the high end is 260, meaning it only takes 40° to go the other half.
The sensor is DEFINITELY not linear. It's more of a log curve. But the gauge itself isn't linear either. (speaking strictly as a mathematician) I don't think it's realistic to even try to calculate a transfer function for the whole system.
Although I've never measured it, I'd estimate the "¼" mark at closer to 175°.
As you will notice, the low end is 100; the middle is 220, i.e. it takes 120° to go the 1st half of the gauge; but the high end is 260, meaning it only takes 40° to go the other half.
The sensor is DEFINITELY not linear. It's more of a log curve. But the gauge itself isn't linear either. (speaking strictly as a mathematician) I don't think it's realistic to even try to calculate a transfer function for the whole system.
Although I've never measured it, I'd estimate the "¼" mark at closer to 175°.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
As mentioned ,the only way to know how hot or cold your car is actually running is with a Inferred laser temperature gun.
Compare the reading from the Thermostat housing to the gage to see how far off it is.
= http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...ed+Thermometer
Or a shop can do it usually for free. Its a 30 second job.
Compare the reading from the Thermostat housing to the gage to see how far off it is.
= http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...ed+Thermometer
Or a shop can do it usually for free. Its a 30 second job.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
My car with a 180* thermostat sits just above the first mark, so Sofa may be correct-or-close...
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
That is where my car usually sits with only one radiator fan on. With both on it gets slightly colder.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
My 89, that tick is 195-200.
I believe my 91 is also similar temp range
I believe my 91 is also similar temp range
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
That would make sense though because now that I think about it, it sat right around that line all the time when I had the 195 in it when I got the car.
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Re: What is the second mark on the gauge?
Yup i think you are in the 170 range based on that pic. When my car is about there, its 175's or so
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