Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

Overheating every time I drive

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 11:36 PM
  #1  
84zrevival's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Overheating every time I drive

Hey all, I have a 84 z28 with a 350 swapped in, I have a good mechanical fan from a previous project, brand new 160 thermo and I believe stock rad. Every time I drive I end up boiling the coolant or overheating in some way, the rad definitely has some mineral deposits or rust or something inside but it seems to flow well, stock mechanical water pump is pushing water through pretty well but maybe it should be more? What kinda pump pressure should I be lookin for? I’ve tried running without a thermostat and flushing etc, The only thing I can think it would be is maybe the rad is clogged or the mechanical fan just isn’t enough.

any input or ideas is appreciated, thanks
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 07:47 AM
  #2  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 28,003
Likes: 2,486
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Try a 50/50 mix of water & AF, and a new radiator cap.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 10:12 PM
  #3  
84zrevival's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Try a 50/50 mix of water & AF, and a new radiator cap.
Rad cap is new and running 50/50 already
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 11:18 PM
  #4  
Scott's 83' Z's Avatar
Junior Member
5 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 57
Likes: 21
From: Twin Cities Mn
Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: L69
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Overheating every time I drive

My 1983 had a similar issue. In the summer I could watch gauge move from 200ish to 240 plus
in just a few minutes at a
stop light. I changed the coolant, new t-stat and even used Prestone’s coolant treatment for crusty radiators. Even tried pulling
the radiator and flushing with a garden hose. Made no difference, had to put a new Delco in to fix the problem.

Sounds like you need a new one too.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2023 | 04:22 PM
  #5  
erik69&85's Avatar
Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 443
Likes: 65
From: Rochester, NY
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Do you have the lower air dam in place beneath the car... All cars will run hot without it... It pushed air up into the radiator.

You will never solve the issue without it
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2023 | 12:53 AM
  #6  
84zrevival's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Originally Posted by erik69&85
Do you have the lower air dam in place beneath the car... All cars will run hot without it... It pushed air up into the radiator.

You will never solve the issue without it
yeah it’s still in place, the AC condenser thing is out of the way too
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2023 | 02:01 AM
  #7  
stew'86MCSS396's Avatar
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 253
Likes: 25
From: honolulu
Car: '86MCSS
Engine: 396 .030"
Transmission: M20
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Just a thought...did you mix and match parts from the original engine and the current 350? What I'm alluding to is v-belt vs serpentine, possibly reverse rotation water pump??? Then you say known good mechanical fan, was that for a v-belt set up or serpentine??? Same applies if using standard rotation fan on a serpentine and vice versa. GL
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2023 | 03:53 AM
  #8  
84zrevival's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Originally Posted by stew'86MCSS396
Just a thought...did you mix and match parts from the original engine and the current 350? What I'm alluding to is v-belt vs serpentine, possibly reverse rotation water pump??? Then you say known good mechanical fan, was that for a v-belt set up or serpentine??? Same applies if using standard rotation fan on a serpentine and vice versa. GL
no sir, all stock/original setup for it. I do have another pump from a spare motor I may try
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2023 | 05:28 AM
  #9  
EDGE's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 1,211
Likes: 93
From: Mississauga, Ontario Canada
Car: 1987 GTA
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: T5WC
Axle/Gears: 3:27
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Does it overheat at highway speed with an abundance of airflow available?
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2023 | 04:14 PM
  #10  
ACebell's Avatar
Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 271
Likes: 95
From: The Villages, FL
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: Originally LU5, but now Carb'd
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 323
Re: Overheating every time I drive

I second the radar replacement onion. I had taken my original (or what came in the car when I bought it) out and cleaned the cooling fins with HVAC coil cleaner, and then used a garden hose to flush for an hour as much crap as I could out of it. The radiator "looked" clean, but still was not cooling as I liked.
I used the discount code from Rock-Auto and ordered a standard stock replacement. I was amazed at the difference in the cooling ability. Money well spent.
A word of warning, the '84 (should be like my '83) doesn't have a heater hose coming from the radiator, but the new units have a port for that (TPI cars and probably TBI), you will need to either buy a plug for it and a strong hose clamp (replace every few years) or re-route the existing heater hose setup and plug the manifold port.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2023 | 05:01 PM
  #11  
84zrevival's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Originally Posted by ACebell
I second the radar replacement onion. I had taken my original (or what came in the car when I bought it) out and cleaned the cooling fins with HVAC coil cleaner, and then used a garden hose to flush for an hour as much crap as I could out of it. The radiator "looked" clean, but still was not cooling as I liked.
I used the discount code from Rock-Auto and ordered a standard stock replacement. I was amazed at the difference in the cooling ability. Money well spent.
A word of warning, the '84 (should be like my '83) doesn't have a heater hose coming from the radiator, but the new units have a port for that (TPI cars and probably TBI), you will need to either buy a plug for it and a strong hose clamp (replace every few years) or re-route the existing heater hose setup and plug the manifold port.
Put a new rad in and it doesn’t overheat constantly but still runs pretty hot, 190-210, is that acceptable ya think?
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2023 | 05:28 PM
  #12  
T.L.'s Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 823
From: Colorado USA
Car: '83 Firebird (T/A Clone)
Engine: 350 with L-69 components
Transmission: 700R-4, 2000 RPM stall converter
Axle/Gears: 10-bolt/3.73 ..
Re: Overheating every time I drive

Originally Posted by 84zrevival
Put a new rad in and it doesn’t overheat constantly but still runs pretty hot, 190-210, is that acceptable ya think?
That's pretty normal. I prefer 185°-200°, but thirdgens (and modern cars) were designed to run hot. In fact the electric fans didn't even kick on until 222°...
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2023 | 09:01 AM
  #13  
ACebell's Avatar
Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 271
Likes: 95
From: The Villages, FL
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28
Engine: Originally LU5, but now Carb'd
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 323
Re: Overheating every time I drive

190-210 read from the factory gauge is acceptable for these cars (in stock style configuration). We all know that the factory gauge is notoriously inaccurate at best.
But glad the new radiator solved the problem. I hate tossing money at the problem, but in this case, money well spent.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Show
Cooling
7
Mar 3, 2015 01:06 PM
matt84z
Cooling
8
Jul 8, 2007 12:40 PM
Raiden
Cooling
10
May 30, 2005 06:08 PM
92rsv8
Cooling
2
Jun 6, 2003 05:37 AM
91RS5.7TBI
Engine Swap
1
Oct 21, 2001 10:56 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59 AM.