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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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MAP values...

I put the scanner on my car the other day to check out how the new engine runs...Well, it runs nasty rich at idle. I haven't done any other testing or tuning yet, one thing at a time...Anyway, are a few of my readings at idle, warmed up...

INT 98
BLM 108
IAC 23
TPS .78
O2 Xcounts 5-4
Base PW 2.0
MAP 60
O2 mv 824

The thing that I find the most curious is the MAP reading. It seems that it shows me to have very little vacuum at idle. The cam I am running is mildly aggressive in my opinion and I expected more vacuum. I will hook up a vacuum guage and see what it shows tomorrow. What do you guys and gals think of this? I know I am very rich, you should see the plugs! What do some of you with more aggressive cams or similar cams see for MAP values at idle? Thanks in advance...

224/236 @.050"
.525/.555
113 LSA
Comp blower cam, no I don't have the blower yet!!
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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Re: MAP values...

Originally posted by 92 zzz28
. . .MAP 60
O2 mv 824

The thing that I find the most curious is the MAP reading. It seems that it shows me to have very little vacuum at idle. The cam I am running is mildly aggressive in my opinion and I expected more vacuum. I will hook up a vacuum guage and see what it shows tomorrow. What do you guys and gals think of this? I know I am very rich, you should see the plugs! What do some of you with more aggressive cams or similar cams see for MAP values at idle? Thanks in advance...

224/236 @.050"
.525/.555
113 LSA
Comp blower cam, no I don't have the blower yet!!
60 Kpa is about 12" of vacuum. What I would consider normal for a cam of that size. And yes, I can believe you are very rich at idle.

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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Okay, thank you...I posted the same thing on the TPI board and got only one response. He said the same thing as you. Not that I didn't believe him, I just like to get lots of opinions. Any suggestions as to what I can do to make it run leaner at idle?

I was thinking about moving the VE values from a lower KPA to the 60 KPA at the idle RPM range and see what happens. Is that a good idea?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by 92 zzz28
Okay, thank you...I posted the same thing on the TPI board and got only one response. He said the same thing as you. Not that I didn't believe him, I just like to get lots of opinions. Any suggestions as to what I can do to make it run leaner at idle?

I was thinking about moving the VE values from a lower KPA to the 60 KPA at the idle RPM range and see what happens. Is that a good idea?
Bob's right.
Your on the right path.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Thank you guys, I appreciate your responses...
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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your tps at idle is off, .78v is a part throttle voltage. you want to be around .55-.58. for the ecm to read an idle voltage.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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I noticed that, thanks for the reminder. I will take care of that...
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