VE master Q's, and More Q's
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Car: 1991 Z28
Engine: 5.3 Gen III SBC
Transmission: 4L80E NTC 258mm Stall
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VE master Q's, and More Q's
Okay, Im going to have my new motor in soon. And I will have the equipment to burn my own chips. (I know I should have gotten used to burning chips on a stock setup) But I think the VE master will help me break in my motor.
so how does it all work? I scan my car while it is running (useing freescan) and log a "run" of my car when I first start it up. save it and run the VE master with the AUJP.bin and the file with the runs data I just saved with free scan. and It will automatically adjust to as close as 128 as possible? (Im sure with a few tries) This is just to get the car Idleing decently and somewhat drivable. (I dont really want my fresh motor running extremly rich like a few people have said I would.
But I do have intentions on "fine tuning" with the methods in Traxions sticky post.
I have another question conserning what I should save with the Free Scan. Should I just start up the car, and start saving Idle data? or should I slowly rev to 3K? or should I let it idle for a few seconds, and then go to 3K in 500 rpm increments?
Sorry this may seem stupid but I have no idea how I should approach going about burning my first chip on a new motor with high compression (10.5:1) and a mild cam (CC305 220/230/.510/.510 114LSA). I dont know even if the car will start without modifying somthing. but from what I have read I will need to modify the VE tables first to get a good AFR.
Sorry for being so long but Im getting lost on were to start with this and I havent even started. I dont even know what to expect the motor to run like. If it will even Idle.
I just want to get this down good so all my friends at school will start seeing that there is even more tuneablity with EFI as there is with carb (I will be one of the only "quick" cars at school that doesnt have a Holley, Edelbrock, or Quadrajet
Thanks alot for your help, and sorry for rambling.
Chris
so how does it all work? I scan my car while it is running (useing freescan) and log a "run" of my car when I first start it up. save it and run the VE master with the AUJP.bin and the file with the runs data I just saved with free scan. and It will automatically adjust to as close as 128 as possible? (Im sure with a few tries) This is just to get the car Idleing decently and somewhat drivable. (I dont really want my fresh motor running extremly rich like a few people have said I would.
But I do have intentions on "fine tuning" with the methods in Traxions sticky post.
I have another question conserning what I should save with the Free Scan. Should I just start up the car, and start saving Idle data? or should I slowly rev to 3K? or should I let it idle for a few seconds, and then go to 3K in 500 rpm increments?
Sorry this may seem stupid but I have no idea how I should approach going about burning my first chip on a new motor with high compression (10.5:1) and a mild cam (CC305 220/230/.510/.510 114LSA). I dont know even if the car will start without modifying somthing. but from what I have read I will need to modify the VE tables first to get a good AFR.
Sorry for being so long but Im getting lost on were to start with this and I havent even started. I dont even know what to expect the motor to run like. If it will even Idle.
I just want to get this down good so all my friends at school will start seeing that there is even more tuneablity with EFI as there is with carb (I will be one of the only "quick" cars at school that doesnt have a Holley, Edelbrock, or Quadrajet
Thanks alot for your help, and sorry for rambling.
Chris
in short I think that you are going to have to either dial it in slowly yourself right as you get it fired up (which is not simple) OR, just fire it up, ensure that it is not WAY lean & let it run for a while while it is runing in. you have two things going against you, first you have a new engine & second you have a tuneup that is not optimum for the application. which comes first the tuneup or the breaking? IMO, the breakin.
VE Master does not work with Free Scan for the #8D mask. it only works with it for the LT1 mask (whatever it is). this being said, if you want to use the VE Master you are going to have to use the DataMaster program.
I have run it a few times on my motor & it does not want to do idle very well. I have not checked into it much, so I dont know what to tell you there. I have checked the rest of the changes that it has made to my VE table & they are OK. I can only imagine that this has less to do with VE master & more to do with the warmup charicteristics of my engine than anything.
as for breaking in your engine. this is no differnt than any other engine, the only difference is that you can tune it electronically. personally I would rather have more fuel than too less, especially @ startup, where the engine could possibly run warm to begin with. but............ you know what they say about opinions.
hth's
BW
VE Master does not work with Free Scan for the #8D mask. it only works with it for the LT1 mask (whatever it is). this being said, if you want to use the VE Master you are going to have to use the DataMaster program.
I have run it a few times on my motor & it does not want to do idle very well. I have not checked into it much, so I dont know what to tell you there. I have checked the rest of the changes that it has made to my VE table & they are OK. I can only imagine that this has less to do with VE master & more to do with the warmup charicteristics of my engine than anything.
as for breaking in your engine. this is no differnt than any other engine, the only difference is that you can tune it electronically. personally I would rather have more fuel than too less, especially @ startup, where the engine could possibly run warm to begin with. but............ you know what they say about opinions.
hth's
BW
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