Timing table question...
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Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
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Transmission: World Class T5 5 Speed
Timing table question...
OK, if I've got a value of 12 @ LV8 208 and 5000 rpm, that is 12º added to my base of 12º, for a total of 24º, correct?
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Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
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Not in $165 ECUs as far as I know. They take the Spark Table value, and do math (subtract base advance) to get that value to be the actual advance.
So, a 24 in the tables (along with the correct base advance in the base advance constant) will have 24° Advance at the engine at that speed/load point. If the ECU knows that the distributor is at (for example) 6° and the tables tell it that it needs 24°, then it subtracts 6 from 24 and uses 18° advance to get 24 at the distributor.
In $6E datastream, it reports 2 spark advances, one based on used advance ignoring base advance, and one using combined advance. The combined advance is close to actual (doesn't contain knock retard if I remember correctly).
So, a 24 in the tables (along with the correct base advance in the base advance constant) will have 24° Advance at the engine at that speed/load point. If the ECU knows that the distributor is at (for example) 6° and the tables tell it that it needs 24°, then it subtracts 6 from 24 and uses 18° advance to get 24 at the distributor.
In $6E datastream, it reports 2 spark advances, one based on used advance ignoring base advance, and one using combined advance. The combined advance is close to actual (doesn't contain knock retard if I remember correctly).
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Well, actually, I'm using the $3A in the '302 ecu. If anyone has any ideas if that works the same, feel free to let me know
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Keep this thread going guys, this is one of the areas where I need information in order to make correct changes to my chip. Currently I backed off the timing ($6E) in the main table to eliminate a hot weather knock. That acheived it's purpose but the car is a dog in the rpm band I made the changes in.
Now that the weather is cooler I can run the orignial timing settings.
I have both the Holley and the Accel books on tuning MAP computers, but I haven't found one that will work for $6E MAF setups.... A changeover to MAP isn't going to happen for a couple of years most likely with my time and funding restraints. (California Insurance companies are making everyone with a shake roof replace them with something else, that's going to run about 12-14K unless I use asphalt shingles, that only runs $5-6K).
Now that the weather is cooler I can run the orignial timing settings.
I have both the Holley and the Accel books on tuning MAP computers, but I haven't found one that will work for $6E MAF setups.... A changeover to MAP isn't going to happen for a couple of years most likely with my time and funding restraints. (California Insurance companies are making everyone with a shake roof replace them with something else, that's going to run about 12-14K unless I use asphalt shingles, that only runs $5-6K).
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