Hey,

I finally decided to give something back! So, I've come up with an Excel file/program to smooth the VE tables. It pretty simple to use and works pretty well from my testing. Right now I guess you could say its "beta" so they're may be some bugs I haven't caught in it. So, if you need to smooth your VE table out take a look at this and respond with questions or comments. I think that the readme file explains how to use it pretty well. If folks like it I'll write the "How it works section"

It's a zipped file so I can't upload it here so I've uploaded it on Craig Moates' file server.

It's under the Uploads and Misc section of his server and is called SmoothVE.zip.

http://www.moates.net/files/6)%20Mis...s/SmoothVE.zip

Hope ya like it!

 

I just used it and it worked great so far. I noticed more so than anything it helped mesh together better the numbers in the 1600RPM range in the lower to the upper so it's smoother transition, atleast in my maps. Other than that it was just a very tiny change in most if not all of my cells.

Overall though I like your graph because TunerPro doesn't have a lower and upper combined 3D graph and I like seeing that.

Something like this for the spark tables would be awesome too! Better yet one that directly compares the spark to the VE so that changes are directly related so they match up perfectly, nice and smooth with each other...

Thanks!

Alex

 

"How it works," please. A number of people have been botheri... I mean asking me for plot/table smoothing in TunerPro. This is something I'd love to integrate. =)

 

Cool...I'll fill in the how it works section soon. Its not really complicated and I'd be happy to work with you into integrating it if you want.

Hmm...spark smoothing shouldn't be that hard but I don't know about relating it to VE.

 

Now what about people that have the Upper Ve Hack and have a upper Ve Extended table that go to 6400RPM. Just thinking out loud.

 

See - this is where this problem gets tough - generalizing it! Welcome to my TunerPro world. Hard-coding it to work for a single application isn't so bad. Making it customizable, and useable for every application, is where it gets tough.

 

Yeah generalizing is though. I don't think Excel is powerful enough to make it do it by itself. I'd need real programming to do that. But, I will make a version for the extended VE table as it shouldn't require much work.

I've updated the readme file but am unable to uplaod it to craigs site. I'm guessing it's because I cant delete the old version. Anyone know how I can get it up there?

 

Neat!!!
Thanks for giving back

 

I usually include a number in the filename that gets incremented. Like a version number:

ThisFile_00.zip
ThisFile_01.zip
ThisFile_02.zip

RBob.

 

Bingo, I use your software more often than I do my own but my software is specific to the $61 mask. I have adder tables combined, slope SA added, lots of "completed" graphs that other ecms just don't have.
I use my software to compare differences between tunes. It's basically my own really useful excel program that does everything from smoothing to editing, blah blah etc.
You're software is still very useful in it's own regards but it's just really hard to visualize the older code .

 

Black 91,

Anyway this could be modified or used for the 7747 VE Tables 1&2, ie could I start out with the combined table rather than inputting Upper and Lower? The scaling doesn't match.

 

Yeah, I don't think that would be a problem. Do you have an example VE table from the 7747? Either post one or point me towards where I can get a bin and ecu for one.

EDIT: I found one on craig's site. I'm using the ECU that came with Tunerpro. Is the correct table called "VE as %(FL1)"? It's a 9x8 table? I've never messed with the 7747 before.

 

I've uploaded an updated version called "SmoothTools" on Craig's site.

The new zip contains smoothers for the regular and extended 730 VE table, 730 Spark table, and 165 MAF Spark table. Once again it's still beta so if you have problems let me know!

http://www.moates.net/files/6)%20Mis...moothTools.zip

 

Black 91,

Yeah. With TunerPro, it'll be in the tables area as FL1 and FL2 which is the adder table. The latter is a 2d table from 0 to 6400rpm.

 

I have not downloaded this, I dont even have excel. How does it compare to VEmaster?

 

2 completely different things. VEmaster will take a datalog showing given BLM's and using what target BLM you set, recalculate the VE tables of your bin so they are closer to your taget BLM.

SmootherTools will look at your entire upper and lower VE tables and get rid of any large discrepencies that they may have from one cell to another so it's a nice smooth transition from one cell to another in essence smoothing out your entire table...

Both of them have their own place. VEmaster never seemed to work for me well though. I'd rather tune old school then use SmootherTools to tweak it a little more to compensate for cetain kpa's that I may not have tweaked so that the entire table is smooth. I use TunerPro and SmootherTools is nice to have since TunerPro doesn't have a feature like it...

 

thanks for the clarification. Now I wish I had excel to try it out.

 

Hey Dominic, I got the 7747 stuff done you asked. The SmoothVE_7747 will take care of the 3D table. To work on the 2D table, or ANY 2D table use Smooth2D. Right now it's set up to do 7747 2D table but it will work on any 2D table it'll just take a little more work on the users part.

Once again thanks to Craig for hosting...

http://www.moates.net/files/6)%20Mis...oothTools2.zip

Enjoy

 

Fear not. You can use OpenOffice if ya want. Open Office is a Free suite of program that equal's microsofts.

Edit Guess the URL would be nice...

http://www.openoffice.org/

 

Black,

That's really great. Appreciate your efforts. One other request. Any chance you could flip the axis so the RPMs are ascending down, while the kPa increases across? I use TC and that's the way their VE tables are built. BTW, I had already tried your smoothing tool out by eliminating some of the rows and cells due to the 7747s lack of granularity. Seemed to work even like that.

 

Good to go..

http://www.moates.net/files/6)%20Mis...oothTools3.zip

 

EXCELLENT. I'll update you on how it works.

 

EXCELLENT. I'll update you on how it works. :hail: