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Old Jan 2, 2001 | 08:14 PM
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Can a non-ECM controlled HEI be used on a 88 TPI retrofit to a 50's street rod? Will the ECM still function correctly?

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Old Jan 3, 2001 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by rwelch:
Can a non-ECM controlled HEI be used on a 88 TPI retrofit to a 50's street rod? Will the ECM still function correctly?
The ignition control is 1/2 of what makes EFI so neat.
If you isolate a neg coil side trigger to an ignition module you can. But then you have to disable the ignition malfunction flags.
I'd really suggest more research for doing that..
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Old Jan 4, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Grumpy:
The ignition control is 1/2 of what makes EFI so neat..
The functionality and precision hasn't escaped me - I was just curious if it could be done. Sounds like you may not be 100% sure?



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Old Jan 5, 2001 | 10:27 AM
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I'm sure it can be done but my electrical circuit skills are not good enough to help you. Maybe an engine tech or Mallory/MSD/Accel certified person can help?

You basically have to repropgram the PROM major, OR

Have to fake the computer into thinking that it is still controlling/creating spark. My guess would be to leave the CC-module connected OUTSIDE the distributor and have the old-style HEI distributor under its own circuitry, which it is anyway. But, you'll also have to send an rpm signal to the external module for obvious reasons. ie, the Pickup coil signal of the old-style HEI will have to be tapped in to...

Just not sure how to make the (now) external CC-module operate properly (without any spark being generated) so that the ECU thinks it is operative???

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Old Jan 5, 2001 | 10:41 AM
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Or just use a "computer controlled" HEI distributer which is better anyway, and get rid of all these headches. LOL

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Old Jan 5, 2001 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by rwelch:
The functionality and precision hasn't escaped me - I was just curious if it could be done. Sounds like you may not be 100% sure?
Sure anything can be done. From your letter it sounds like your not an EE, and neither am I. So while possible, I know I'd be leary of recommending what I'd try for you to run. There are all sorts of gotchas on automotive electronics that even a non automotive literate EE can miss.
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Old Jan 5, 2001 | 10:02 PM
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I guess I'd just be curious as to why you'd go with TPI if you didn't intend on using an ESC distributor. Not saying there couldn't be any good reasons not to, I just can't think of any offhand.
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Old Jan 6, 2001 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by gravitar:
I guess I'd just be curious as to why you'd go with TPI if you didn't intend on using an ESC distributor.
Well, I probably wouldn't but I was just kinda thinking out loud to myself about this retrofit I'm going to do. If the existing curved HEI works well with my non-stock cam and I'm not ready yet to get into PROM editing and burning and I can richen the mix some with an AFPR, I thought it might be a way to get the system up and running for awhile and perhaps perform a little better than running the stock ECM configuration. It would be an experiment - isn't that what hotrodding is about? Fortunately, the vehicle is not my daily driver.



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