ARAP bin - Some Q:s...
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Car: Camaro IROC-Z '89
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ARAP bin - Some Q:s...
I have an '89 IROC with a 350 TPI, 700R4 in it, what changes do I need to make to the ARAP bin before I can try it out?
I've read something about the fan switches being inverted, can someone please help me straighten this out?
What would be a good starting point, I already have all prom burning equipment and a spare chip carrier for the ecm....
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'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
I've read something about the fan switches being inverted, can someone please help me straighten this out?
What would be a good starting point, I already have all prom burning equipment and a spare chip carrier for the ecm....
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ZaphodB a.k.a Carl Andersson - zaphodb@faxancruisers.org
'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
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Car: Camaro IROC-Z '89
Engine: 350 TPI /w Procharger P1SC
Transmission: TH700R4 with Transgo shiftkit
Axle/Gears: 2.77 Borg Warner
Can someone at least give me a few hints to get me started on this?
What i would do personally would be to put a 180stat in, and then run the arap with the scanner hooked up so you can watch EVERYTHING thats going on.
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1987 IROC-Z L98,SuperRam,EB 6085's,LPE 219/219 Roller, Crane 1.6RR, EB TPI Base, 58mm TB, ADS 24#, AFPR, K&N, EB TES, Catco Cat, 3" Borla Cat-Back, Accel cap,rotor,distro/other crap, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster 3, Aluminum DS, 94 Disk Rear, Adjustable Valve, Precision 3.73 Gears, Sub-Frame Connectors, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, KYB Shocks/Struts, Suspension Techniques Lowering Springs, Polyurethan Bushings all over the place, Moog Upper/Lower Ball joints and Tie Rods ends/Idler Arm,
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1987 IROC-Z L98,SuperRam,EB 6085's,LPE 219/219 Roller, Crane 1.6RR, EB TPI Base, 58mm TB, ADS 24#, AFPR, K&N, EB TES, Catco Cat, 3" Borla Cat-Back, Accel cap,rotor,distro/other crap, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster 3, Aluminum DS, 94 Disk Rear, Adjustable Valve, Precision 3.73 Gears, Sub-Frame Connectors, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, KYB Shocks/Struts, Suspension Techniques Lowering Springs, Polyurethan Bushings all over the place, Moog Upper/Lower Ball joints and Tie Rods ends/Idler Arm,
To see the ROC, Check out the webpage Here
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TunerCat's 6E.TDF now has the "Normal Operation Fan Switch" availble as part of its "Switches". Just select it and it will make the Fans work properly on the ARAP BIN.
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Car: Used to be an '87 IROC
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Axle/Gears: 3:23?
I thought that the fan switch was only a problem when running the 6E code in an '87 or '88. Since you have an '89, that should be a non-issue. I'd check it to be sure, though.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Glenn91L98GTA:
TunerCat's 6E.TDF now has the "Normal Operation Fan Switch" availble as part of its "Switches". Just select it and it will make the Fans work properly on the ARAP BIN.</font>
TunerCat's 6E.TDF now has the "Normal Operation Fan Switch" availble as part of its "Switches". Just select it and it will make the Fans work properly on the ARAP BIN.</font>

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[This message has been edited by P J Moran (edited May 30, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by P J Moran (edited May 30, 2001).]
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by P J Moran:
"Normally Open", not "Normal Operation", FYI
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"Normally Open", not "Normal Operation", FYI

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Car: Camaro IROC-Z '89
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by P J Moran:
I thought that the fan switch was only a problem when running the 6E code in an '87 or '88. Since you have an '89, that should be a non-issue. I'd check it to be sure, though.
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I thought that the fan switch was only a problem when running the 6E code in an '87 or '88. Since you have an '89, that should be a non-issue. I'd check it to be sure, though.
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Just trying to make sure I don't do any stupid mistakes.... But I guess will know abot the fan issue pretty quick if it's the wrong flag set....

About prom editors, which one is to prefer - I know of a least three different ones (Tunercat, Winbin and GMEpro)...?
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'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
I have an 89 IROC 350 700R4 the same as yours. I'm running the ARAP bin and I had to change the fan tun on request to normally open for it to work. Just a thought!!!!!
Thanks again for the help............you know who!!
Thanks again for the help............you know who!!
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Transmission: TH700R4 with Transgo shiftkit
Axle/Gears: 2.77 Borg Warner
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Like a ROC 89:
I have an 89 IROC 350 700R4 the same as yours. I'm running the ARAP bin and I had to change the fan tun on request to normally open for it to work. Just a thought!!!!!
Thanks again for the help............you know who!!</font>
I have an 89 IROC 350 700R4 the same as yours. I'm running the ARAP bin and I had to change the fan tun on request to normally open for it to work. Just a thought!!!!!
Thanks again for the help............you know who!!</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Like a ROC 89:
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The control for the "Normal Operation" of the fan is a "bit switch". You alter a single bit on a byte. I do not use Winbin so I cannot tell you how to handle this in Winbin.
As someone else mentioned, it affects ALL MAF cars, including 1989s. The car I installed it on was a 1989 and it had to this problem also.
As someone else mentioned, it affects ALL MAF cars, including 1989s. The car I installed it on was a 1989 and it had to this problem also.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Glenn91L98GTA:
The control for the "Normal Operation" of the fan is a "bit switch". You alter a single bit on a byte. I do not use Winbin so I cannot tell you how to handle this in Winbin.
As someone else mentioned, it affects ALL MAF cars, including 1989s. The car I installed it on was a 1989 and it had to this problem also.</font>
The control for the "Normal Operation" of the fan is a "bit switch". You alter a single bit on a byte. I do not use Winbin so I cannot tell you how to handle this in Winbin.
As someone else mentioned, it affects ALL MAF cars, including 1989s. The car I installed it on was a 1989 and it had to this problem also.</font>
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'89 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7L TPI - Mods under construction :-)
Ed Wright Fastchip Stage II/160 stat, Edelbrock TES Headers,
SLP Airfoil, K&N Filters, Accel 8mm wires, Relocated MAT, AFPR @ 47 PSI
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The bit is also defined in the <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3rd-gen/files/89v4.ecu">89v4.ecu</A> file that's available from the yahoo third gen site.
You can use this file with winbin. A simple bit editor won't do the job for you as you also have to calculate a new checksum for the bin.
Here's the relevant ecu data:
/* Item 5: AC N/O - N/C pres switch */
{
/*startAddr =17,
/*columns =1,
/*rows =1,
/*elementSize =1,
/*bitMask =80,
/*offset =0,
/*mulOrDivOrBit =0,
/*factor =1,
/*map_name =A/C Pressure Switch Specification Byte,
/*ylabel =Option,
/*yaxis =b0 b1 b2 b3 b4 N/O P/S b7,
/*xlabel =Enabled,
/*xaxis = ,,
};
--andrew
[This message has been edited by afgun (edited May 31, 2001).]
You can use this file with winbin. A simple bit editor won't do the job for you as you also have to calculate a new checksum for the bin.
Here's the relevant ecu data:
/* Item 5: AC N/O - N/C pres switch */
{
/*startAddr =17,
/*columns =1,
/*rows =1,
/*elementSize =1,
/*bitMask =80,
/*offset =0,
/*mulOrDivOrBit =0,
/*factor =1,
/*map_name =A/C Pressure Switch Specification Byte,
/*ylabel =Option,
/*yaxis =b0 b1 b2 b3 b4 N/O P/S b7,
/*xlabel =Enabled,
/*xaxis = ,,
};
--andrew
[This message has been edited by afgun (edited May 31, 2001).]
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Transmission: TH700R4 with Transgo shiftkit
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Thanks, now I think I've got everything straightened out.
Will get back with some reults after experimenting a bit..... That fan thing was a bit annoying
Will get back with some reults after experimenting a bit..... That fan thing was a bit annoying
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