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are the '86 and '89 ECM interchangeable?

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 02:21 AM
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Car: 1987 Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700R4
are the '86 and '89 ECM interchangeable?

the ECM in my '86 IROC died today, I have a complete TPI setup from an '89, can i swap ECMs and use the PROM from the '86 in the '89 ECM without trouble?

I know the '89 has VATS but isn't that coded into the PROM not the ECM itself?

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 07:13 AM
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Check to make sure they both say 1227165, but it should certainly work. VATS is a function of the programming, not the hardware.
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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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thanks man

i'm happy about that because I definitely need to get this car running, it died on me on the way home from getting some supper last night, had to walk over 3 miles home

i'm sure it's the ECM, the check engine light was flashing in time with the missing of the engine and then it just shut off.. i can crank it and it will fire but it will not idle, runs very rough and the check engine light will flash off each time the car stumbles and flash on each time it catches..

the lights both in the gauges and the headlights don't dim while the car is missing so i know it's not a ground..



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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 04:40 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
any 1227165ECM should work. When you get the new ECM and the 89 has the same combo that you have EG: 305 Manual, 350 Auto, 305 Auto, try and use the 89 chip, it should work. I am much (MUCH) happier with my 89 chip than my 86 chip.

If I am incorrect by saying this, please don't hesetate to correct me.

John



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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:05 AM
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just one question about that..

wouldn't the VATS programming interfere?

i know the '89 chip would be superior because of deletion of the cold start injector..

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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:23 AM
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Thats correct. The VATS would prevent your car from starting. The 89 code is expecting the signal from the VATS module.
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