Need advice
Need advice
I´m trying to find out what is causing my problem
I´m not getting the power to the wheels,and the engine pops from 5-7K and makes no power at all
O2 sensors readings are juming up and down,INT,BLM
i have seen ignition adv of 44degrees
How is my tune,good or bad?
I have allmost a new engine,ignition and fuel system
I have a 1993 LT1,full bolton and C/H package
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what´s your opinion about whats causing this?
I´m not getting the power to the wheels,and the engine pops from 5-7K and makes no power at all
O2 sensors readings are juming up and down,INT,BLM
i have seen ignition adv of 44degrees
How is my tune,good or bad?
I have allmost a new engine,ignition and fuel system
I have a 1993 LT1,full bolton and C/H package
The file
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what´s your opinion about whats causing this?
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From: The Bone Yard
Car: Death Mobile
Engine: 666 c.i.
You probably won't get too much help as:
1) You don't mention what the particular file is that you are offering and for what scan tool. People generally don't download files without more information. For all we know, you are attempting to cause a "datalogger" to install on our computers to scoop our banking info. Please identify the file and the scan tool so people can see if they are interested in downloading it.
2) The problem you are describing is pretty vague. Give more info.
3) This is a 3rd Gen, not a 4th Gen site. Lots of expertise on the ECMs & programming for 3rd Gens. Not too much for 4th Gens.
1) You don't mention what the particular file is that you are offering and for what scan tool. People generally don't download files without more information. For all we know, you are attempting to cause a "datalogger" to install on our computers to scoop our banking info. Please identify the file and the scan tool so people can see if they are interested in downloading it.
2) The problem you are describing is pretty vague. Give more info.
3) This is a 3rd Gen, not a 4th Gen site. Lots of expertise on the ECMs & programming for 3rd Gens. Not too much for 4th Gens.
Good point,i forgot to say i use Tunerpro Rt 4,14
This is a .ads Log file.I used LT1_92-93.ads and Da3.xdf
the problem is that tha car makes no power,idles badly,and is way to rich for some cause
What could cause such a mess,sensor error or bad tuning
I know this is L98 Forum but an engine is an engine
This is a .ads Log file.I used LT1_92-93.ads and Da3.xdf
the problem is that tha car makes no power,idles badly,and is way to rich for some cause
What could cause such a mess,sensor error or bad tuning
I know this is L98 Forum but an engine is an engine
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From: In your ear. No, the other one.
Car: '89 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T5WC
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi
DA3 is fine. 4th gen, yes, but GM OBDI, so we'll "let that slide." 
However, more relevant is whether or not you've absolutely ruled out mechanical issues. What's your setup like? Stock? If so, it's almost certainly mechanical.

However, more relevant is whether or not you've absolutely ruled out mechanical issues. What's your setup like? Stock? If so, it's almost certainly mechanical.

That´s what i´m trying to find out,what is causing this problem
I have a mailorder tune from pcmforless
I have replaced the opti,plug.,wires,coil,,fuel pump,injectors,fuel filter so there should be no fault there
I just thought if someone might see if there was an obvious reason for loss of power in the log f.ex sensor output
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From: The Bone Yard
Car: Death Mobile
Engine: 666 c.i.
In all honesty, I should be deleting this thread as this Board is intended for "do-it-yourself" eprom tuning, not diagnosing problems with "mail-order" programming or mechanical issues.
However, I am prepared to leave it open for now.
First, when did your problems begin? Have you done mods? How many miles? Has your engine been rebuilt? And have you tried reverting to the original programming?
I would start by trying the original programming to see if the problem persists, get's worst or improves.
However, I am prepared to leave it open for now.
First, when did your problems begin? Have you done mods? How many miles? Has your engine been rebuilt? And have you tried reverting to the original programming?
I would start by trying the original programming to see if the problem persists, get's worst or improves.
Thank you Grim Reaper
I took my engine out of the car for a rebuild and tune
Custom Cam 234/240dur 544/537lift 112las on 108IC,Heads ported,2.02/1,60 Valves,58mm TB,LT headers,1,6RR and so on
I´m trying to tune it myself but i´m going to continue undill the motor is "normal"
I´m asking if someone saw something wrong with the sensors output
I haven´t tryed to revert to stock programming because the engine is normal at low rpm 1000-4000rpm but at 4000-7000rpm i have no power,so either my tune is off,the sensors are bad or i have ignition problems but i have a new ignition,Coil,Wires,plugs,Fuel pump,Fuel filter ect..
So either i have bad sensors or a bad tune,i can´t seem to find the problem
I took my engine out of the car for a rebuild and tune
Custom Cam 234/240dur 544/537lift 112las on 108IC,Heads ported,2.02/1,60 Valves,58mm TB,LT headers,1,6RR and so on
I´m trying to tune it myself but i´m going to continue undill the motor is "normal"
I´m asking if someone saw something wrong with the sensors output
I haven´t tryed to revert to stock programming because the engine is normal at low rpm 1000-4000rpm but at 4000-7000rpm i have no power,so either my tune is off,the sensors are bad or i have ignition problems but i have a new ignition,Coil,Wires,plugs,Fuel pump,Fuel filter ect..
So either i have bad sensors or a bad tune,i can´t seem to find the problem
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
After a quick look at the log, The main thing I saw was that you had 15 mS PW above 4K rpm and your O2 sensors were way lean (single digits).
Might want to tape a fuel pressure gauge to the windshield and see if its dropping above 4K rpm. Fuel was tring to get there, just didn't make it.
Good luck.
Might want to tape a fuel pressure gauge to the windshield and see if its dropping above 4K rpm. Fuel was tring to get there, just didn't make it.
Good luck.
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Engine: 3xx ci tubo
Transmission: 4L60E & 4L80E
You are running a SEFI ECM in that thing right? So, to us double fire batch guys that would have an ALDL report of (15/2) = 7.5ms injector BPWs.
Need more info:
1) what is the injector size (#/hr)?
2) what is the fuel pressure?
3) what is the fuel pump?
4) how many miles on the fuel pump?
5) how many miles on the injectors?
Need more info:
1) what is the injector size (#/hr)?
2) what is the fuel pressure?
3) what is the fuel pump?
4) how many miles on the fuel pump?
5) how many miles on the injectors?
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Engine: 3xx ci tubo
Transmission: 4L60E & 4L80E
It seems like you are getting spark because it revs to 6K RPMs. Your injector duty cycle is 15ms/20ms = 75% at 6K RPM. If you are very sure that you checked all the mechanical stuff (like all eight injectors plugged connected), then I would increase the VE table above 4K RPM and see what happens.
I wonder if the 83 ECM reports zero on the O2 sensors when in PE MODE? It doens't seem likely because on O2 sensor is slightly above O2 mV.
It looks like either fuel pressure (fuel filter new also?) or something fuel related. The Walbro is plenty of fuel for your needs. The sensors seem to be reading fine and battery/fuel pump voltage is fine. After the fuel filter and line blockage (kinked) check, then try adding more fuel to the Upper VE table.
It almost seems like it has to be the fuel pump losing voltage / bad connection or a blocked line. Your injector duty cycles are good for (8*36*.75)/.54 ~= 400FWHP at 6K RPM. You probably need more VE fuel also.
I wonder if the 83 ECM reports zero on the O2 sensors when in PE MODE? It doens't seem likely because on O2 sensor is slightly above O2 mV.
It looks like either fuel pressure (fuel filter new also?) or something fuel related. The Walbro is plenty of fuel for your needs. The sensors seem to be reading fine and battery/fuel pump voltage is fine. After the fuel filter and line blockage (kinked) check, then try adding more fuel to the Upper VE table.
It almost seems like it has to be the fuel pump losing voltage / bad connection or a blocked line. Your injector duty cycles are good for (8*36*.75)/.54 ~= 400FWHP at 6K RPM. You probably need more VE fuel also.
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
Kinda just sounds like an opti problem, or messed up wires, or coil. Or, you fried your computer.
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It is strange how his O2 mV go to zero......no spark or no fuel. No spark would do the 0 mV thing. Some fuel would give an O2 with mV greater than zero. It is a tough one.
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Car: 09 Cobalt SS Sedan. 92 Z28 vert
Engine: 2.0T EFR6758; 5.0TT T3/T4 8psi
Transmission: F40; 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.76 LSD; 3.23 posi
any Service Engine Light?
Did you remember to tap in the pin on the cam? for the older LT1s, the pin needs to be tapped in a little (like .030") or it will bend the optispark shaft. My brother forgot to tap his in and he had tons of popping and stuff to find out his optispark shaft was bent and bearings were all over inside the cap. He was getting frustrated with my tuning ability the whole time.
Just trying to name some other possibilities, from my experience.
Did you remember to tap in the pin on the cam? for the older LT1s, the pin needs to be tapped in a little (like .030") or it will bend the optispark shaft. My brother forgot to tap his in and he had tons of popping and stuff to find out his optispark shaft was bent and bearings were all over inside the cap. He was getting frustrated with my tuning ability the whole time.
Just trying to name some other possibilities, from my experience.
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