WB O2 Parts Kit
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WB O2 Parts Kit
There was a guy on the EFI board offering a parts kit for the DIY WB O2 sensor - in Superior, CO if I remember right. Does anybody know if this was a legit offer? Anyone actually get parts or communications from that individual? I've tried to contact him by e-mail but get no response.
I'm about to place my parts order with DigiKey (but don't really want to buy 5 of everything); so I was looking at the parts kit offer - it's not a lot of money, but I feel silly sending a check for something that might be a hoax. TIA
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Doctor J:
There was a guy on the EFI board offering a parts kit for the DIY WB O2 sensor - in Superior, CO if I remember right. Does anybody know if this was a legit offer? Anyone actually get parts or communications from that individual? I've tried to contact him by e-mail but get no response.
I'm about to place my parts order with DigiKey (but don't really want to buy 5 of everything); so I was looking at the parts kit offer - it's not a lot of money, but I feel silly sending a check for something that might be a hoax. TIA
drj
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There was a guy on the EFI board offering a parts kit for the DIY WB O2 sensor - in Superior, CO if I remember right. Does anybody know if this was a legit offer? Anyone actually get parts or communications from that individual? I've tried to contact him by e-mail but get no response.
I'm about to place my parts order with DigiKey (but don't really want to buy 5 of everything); so I was looking at the parts kit offer - it's not a lot of money, but I feel silly sending a check for something that might be a hoax. TIA
drj
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If you'd been following along, you'd know that he's doing a few hundred kits.
He put $5K on his credit card to buy the stuff, and said he wasn't going to cash any checks till the parts are ready to ship, and instead of anwering repeatative email, he was working on packaging the parts.
You have any worries buy Digikey,
don't call a guy anything negative just because your not up on what's going on. You could have just as easy let the hoax garbage out.
BTW, his name is Steve, and has done alot of work for free to push the prom burning effort forward. He's been on the inside for like 5+ years.
Hope that clears things up for you.
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Actually, grumpy, I did look through the EFI archives for a few recent months - but after I filtered out all of the constant flames and repetitive vitriol, maybe I missed seeing something worth reading. Electronics is the hobby I enjoy, not following soap operas.
As far as researching the topic, it was seeing lots of your posts over there that made me wonder who (if anyone) has a good reputation on that board. Hence my question about from whom to order parts.
To make a long story short, somebody pointed out a note from 'Lyndon' aka 'programmer' that seemed to endorse the parts kit. I don't know who Lyndon is, but I've seen his stuff on other message boards and his responses have always been helpful, polite, and to the point. For that reason I'm inclined to trust what he says - FWIW.
Thanks for your input anyway.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Doctor J:
Actually, grumpy, I did look through the EFI archives for a few recent months - but after I filtered out all of the constant flames and repetitive vitriol, maybe I missed seeing something worth reading. Electronics is the hobby I enjoy, not following soap operas.
As far as researching the topic, it was seeing lots of your posts over there that made me wonder who (if anyone) has a good reputation on that board. Hence my question about from whom to order parts.
To make a long story short, somebody pointed out a note from 'Lyndon' aka 'programmer' that seemed to endorse the parts kit. I don't know who Lyndon is, but I've seen his stuff on other message boards and his responses have always been helpful, polite, and to the point. For that reason I'm inclined to trust what he says - FWIW.
Thanks for your input anyway.
drj
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Actually, grumpy, I did look through the EFI archives for a few recent months - but after I filtered out all of the constant flames and repetitive vitriol, maybe I missed seeing something worth reading. Electronics is the hobby I enjoy, not following soap operas.
As far as researching the topic, it was seeing lots of your posts over there that made me wonder who (if anyone) has a good reputation on that board. Hence my question about from whom to order parts.
To make a long story short, somebody pointed out a note from 'Lyndon' aka 'programmer' that seemed to endorse the parts kit. I don't know who Lyndon is, but I've seen his stuff on other message boards and his responses have always been helpful, polite, and to the point. For that reason I'm inclined to trust what he says - FWIW.
Thanks for your input anyway.
drj
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His actions also killed off a Ionization Detonation Project that would have been just as easy to build for the home tuner.
Just think, accurate timing and fuel with DIY stuff. Sounds like a good idea to me. No false Knock to mess with..... No tip in or trace detonation!.
There is alot at steak with that *flame war*.
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What did you expect from someone named Grumpy. I think moderately-pissed-off would be a better name.
But he (I assume a man, cause if it was a gal, her handle would have to be Bit¢hy.
) does get correct answers across.
Weed thru Grumpy's attitude and look for the answers.
For the group purchase of DIY WB02
Steven Ciciora
1620 S. Vilas Ct.
Superior, CO 80027
Can't get a phone number
His email is diywb@ciciora.com, but he has yet to email me back. Either VERY busy or there is a hint of a scam.
If I get an email back, I'll post my results.
But he (I assume a man, cause if it was a gal, her handle would have to be Bit¢hy.
) does get correct answers across.Weed thru Grumpy's attitude and look for the answers.
For the group purchase of DIY WB02
Steven Ciciora
1620 S. Vilas Ct.
Superior, CO 80027
Can't get a phone number
His email is diywb@ciciora.com, but he has yet to email me back. Either VERY busy or there is a hint of a scam.
If I get an email back, I'll post my results.
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Grumpy, what the heck are you talking about?
He didn't say anything negative. I reread the darn thing 3 times and it sounds like a nice polite way of asking for help. He mentioned that he DID e-mail Steve but he hasn't gotten a reply. This makes him wonder if it's a hoax, that's natural and not everybody has the time to weed through all the information in the archieves!
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He didn't say anything negative. I reread the darn thing 3 times and it sounds like a nice polite way of asking for help. He mentioned that he DID e-mail Steve but he hasn't gotten a reply. This makes him wonder if it's a hoax, that's natural and not everybody has the time to weed through all the information in the archieves!
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From the DIY_EFI mailed-out BB. Some negatives/concerns and a contact and words from Steven Ciciora.
I can understand the being swamped thing.
In his defense
I can understand the being swamped thing.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">From: owner-diy_efi@diy-efi.org [maimailto:Owner-diy_efi@diy-efi.org]On Behalf
Of Ruffruff8888@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:24 AM
To: diy_efi@diy-efi.org
Subject: Re: DIY-WB parts kits
I ordered 2 complete kits over 1.5 months ago and paid via paypal and have
not received conformation of receipt or if the parts will ship anytime soon.
Hope someone can give positive hope here.
Loyde
Dallas Texas</font>
Of Ruffruff8888@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:24 AM
To: diy_efi@diy-efi.org
Subject: Re: DIY-WB parts kits
I ordered 2 complete kits over 1.5 months ago and paid via paypal and have
not received conformation of receipt or if the parts will ship anytime soon.
Hope someone can give positive hope here.
Loyde
Dallas Texas</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:46:58 -0400
From: Stephen Andersen <SAndersen@advan-tek.com>
Subject: RE: DIY-WB parts kits
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
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charset="iso-8859-1"
There is always hope. Steve is just swamped as I said the other day.
Let's just relax a bit and see what happens. I shelled out a whopping
30 something bux for 2 kits and a video. I can be patient for that
amount...
Steve</font>
From: Stephen Andersen <SAndersen@advan-tek.com>
Subject: RE: DIY-WB parts kits
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There is always hope. Steve is just swamped as I said the other day.
Let's just relax a bit and see what happens. I shelled out a whopping
30 something bux for 2 kits and a video. I can be patient for that
amount...
Steve</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:47:59 -0400
From: Stephen Andersen <SAndersen@advan-tek.com>
Subject: FW: Parts kits update
Alright, before people start going crazy about this, I
am forwarding Steve's message from last week regarding
the status of the parts kits.
I hope that I am not crossing any lines doing this,
but the frequency of the questions is getting out of
control.
Please do not contact either myself or Steve Ciciora
for more info, as it will just slow down the process.
In my case, I have nothing to do with this group
purchase other than being a customer who read the email
and sent money...
Stephen M. Andersen, P.E. (302) 326-6405
Technical Director FAX (302) 326-6401
AdvanTek International, LLC Cell (302) 547-9842
56 Read's Way andersen@Advan-Tek.com
New Castle, DE 19720
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steven Ciciora [mailto:ciciora@Ciciora.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:01 PM
To: deleted for protection of the innocent!!!
Subject: Parts kits update
Sorry for the lack of communication. This is a _bigger_ project than I
expected! If you got this email, then it's a 'confirmation' that you are
on the web page list. I'm almost done sorting components, and hope to
start shipping next week. I won't cash any checks until I ship your kit,
and all the paypal $ is still with PayPal. I won't transfer it to my bank
account until those kits are shipped as well. For the rest of today, I'm
going to reply to the almost 200 emails I've got waiting for me about the
parts kits, so if you emailed me directly, I'll get back to you soon.
With the over 60,000 parts I'm sorting out, there is a good chance that I
goofed on someone's kit. If you are short something, please take an
inventory of the rest of your parts, and let me know all you are missing,
and I'll get replacement parts out to you A.S.A.P.
For the non-US orders that can't use http://www.paypal.com, I will be
looking into http://www.tradenable.com, which I've been told works well,
but costs about $4.50 US. Any foreign checks mailed to me must be in US
funds, otherwise my bank will charge me something outragous to cash it (on
the order of $10 US).
Please be patient, I'll get to you. Believe me, I really want to ship as
many of these kits as I can, and start paying off that $5,000 credit card
bill!
- - Steven Ciciora</font>
From: Stephen Andersen <SAndersen@advan-tek.com>
Subject: FW: Parts kits update
Alright, before people start going crazy about this, I
am forwarding Steve's message from last week regarding
the status of the parts kits.
I hope that I am not crossing any lines doing this,
but the frequency of the questions is getting out of
control.
Please do not contact either myself or Steve Ciciora
for more info, as it will just slow down the process.
In my case, I have nothing to do with this group
purchase other than being a customer who read the email
and sent money...
Stephen M. Andersen, P.E. (302) 326-6405
Technical Director FAX (302) 326-6401
AdvanTek International, LLC Cell (302) 547-9842
56 Read's Way andersen@Advan-Tek.com
New Castle, DE 19720
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steven Ciciora [mailto:ciciora@Ciciora.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:01 PM
To: deleted for protection of the innocent!!!
Subject: Parts kits update
Sorry for the lack of communication. This is a _bigger_ project than I
expected! If you got this email, then it's a 'confirmation' that you are
on the web page list. I'm almost done sorting components, and hope to
start shipping next week. I won't cash any checks until I ship your kit,
and all the paypal $ is still with PayPal. I won't transfer it to my bank
account until those kits are shipped as well. For the rest of today, I'm
going to reply to the almost 200 emails I've got waiting for me about the
parts kits, so if you emailed me directly, I'll get back to you soon.
With the over 60,000 parts I'm sorting out, there is a good chance that I
goofed on someone's kit. If you are short something, please take an
inventory of the rest of your parts, and let me know all you are missing,
and I'll get replacement parts out to you A.S.A.P.
For the non-US orders that can't use http://www.paypal.com, I will be
looking into http://www.tradenable.com, which I've been told works well,
but costs about $4.50 US. Any foreign checks mailed to me must be in US
funds, otherwise my bank will charge me something outragous to cash it (on
the order of $10 US).
Please be patient, I'll get to you. Believe me, I really want to ship as
many of these kits as I can, and start paying off that $5,000 credit card
bill!
- - Steven Ciciora</font>
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