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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Ic Dip issues.

Hi guys, Im having a weird issue trying to salvage a 1227165 memcal that the eprom was destroyed during uv erasing.Hi Chanin, this confuse me too. I was trying to fix a old general motors memcal. I carefully removed the old chip and soldered in this socket. Than before I installed a chip I checked to make sure stat no pins were shorted together and that I had continuity from the dip to a lower pin connection. I than installed a eprom into the dip socket and erased it under uv light. I checked to see if it had been erased and kept getting odd readings of data. I removed the erased eprom and checked it in my programer and it shows erased. So I grabbed out a new dip and installed that same chip and check to see if it was erased and the same odd data showed up like fb in many address and f7 in many address as well. This has been true in more than 1 chip that has been confirmed erased. These are the dip's I used. Could it be the tin in the adapter?

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Thank you Rbob. !!
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
Hi guys, Im having a weird issue trying to salvage a 1227165 memcal that the eprom was destroyed during uv erasing.Hi Chanin, this confuse me too. I was trying to fix a old general motors memcal. I carefully removed the old chip and soldered in this socket. Than before I installed a chip I checked to make sure stat no pins were shorted together and that I had continuity from the dip to a lower pin connection. I than installed a eprom into the dip socket and erased it under uv light. I checked to see if it had been erased and kept getting odd readings of data. I removed the erased eprom and checked it in my programer and it shows erased. So I grabbed out a new dip and installed that same chip and check to see if it was erased and the same odd data showed up like fb in many address and f7 in many address as well. This has been true in more than 1 chip that has been confirmed erased. These are the dip's I used. Could it be the tin in the adapter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3#ht_500wt_836
Hey Tuned, did you get an answer to this problem? Would be great info.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Yes, those dips were pos. Moates d2 or Mouser.com 535-28-6518-10 made by aries. When soldered in still a low profile with a uv eprom the memcal blue cover will still snap on with no modification.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...y5hUrKvR7Rc%3d
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Fantastic! Thanks.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

You can also get the through Digikey, I believe It was a contact material issue these have gold contact pins. Off To the trash can with the old ones.

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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Ok this is funny, you bought ones off evilBay I'm guessing because orice was cheap? Found them to be insuffecient.

Then you went to Mouser and Digikey to buy quality products but spent a lot more money than the cheapies on evilBay.

When you could have bought ones cheaper, from a company who tests thier products fo our usage!

Buying these little pieces at $2.00 per ECM is so cheap it's not worth time to search the internet to begin with. Getting them from a company that keeps expanding tuning products so we have stuff to play with keeps them making a few bucks, maybe enough to stay in business long enough to develope more new cool stuff?

Buy from Moates and keep them in business so they can keep developing more cool tuner stuff!!!

http://www.moates.net/d2-28pin-dip-s....html?cPath=26
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Originally Posted by EagleMark
Ok this is funny, you bought ones off evilBay I'm guessing because orice was cheap? Found them to be insuffecient.

Then you went to Mouser and Digikey to buy quality products but spent a lot more money than the cheapies on evilBay.

When you could have bought ones cheaper, from a company who tests thier products fo our usage!

Buying these little pieces at $2.00 per ECM is so cheap it's not worth time to search the internet to begin with. Getting them from a company that keeps expanding tuning products so we have stuff to play with keeps them making a few bucks, maybe enough to stay in business long enough to develope more new cool stuff?

Buy from Moates and keep them in business so they can keep developing more cool tuner stuff!!!

http://www.moates.net/d2-28pin-dip-s....html?cPath=26
I believe he did recommend Moates. But, some people need to buy them in quantity and wholesale. We never learn if we don't try. I thought it was great information.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Was great information and maybe great parts. But one piece was more money then supporting Moates?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

never learn if you don't try was worth the gamble lesson learned at a low expense. I needed to order some delphi connectors from mouser anyways so it made since to make the purchase through them. I have no problem supporting craig he has help me in the past.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Re: Ic Dip issues.

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
never learn if you don't try was worth the gamble lesson learned at a low expense. I needed to order some delphi connectors from mouser anyways so it made since to make the purchase through them. I have no problem supporting craig he has help me in the past.


I just wanted everyone else to know with a link in this thread!

He is one of the pioneers in EFI research and has helped many before and during Moates. I just want him to help for future as well.

Can you imagine life without the AutoProm?

This goes for other pioneers as well like Mark at TunerPro, can you imagine life without TunerPro?

Can you imagine this forum without RBob?

There's lots of other guys I'm not mentioning but without them we'd be screwed too! We'd be using stupid **** like adjustable MAP sensors or snake oil resistor black boxs to trick signals.

I'm having a panic attack just thinking about how horrible life would be without them, oh the nightmares...

I hope the SuperBowl gets my mind of this!

Here's all the links you need to know!

Moates!
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TunerPro and pay for your software!
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Dynamic EFI!
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Great advancement thanks to these guys the hard work and knowledge, Rip Bruce..
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